Gold knockdown change ideas

@UnwarierSquid16 The trade off with the gold knockdown is that it’s easy to thirst someone who has it.
The revive time is also longer than normal, so it really isn’t that much of an unfair advantage.

@Leo_the_Lion25 Well the fast heals on gold armor was nice because whoever was Lifeline usually traded with someone who had purple because she didn't "need" the fast heals.

But, gold knockdown shields are easy enough to find, just finish your kills. So what if you get 3rd partied, that is how this game is (PS: adding sarcasm because I made an entire thread of 3rd partying and everyone told me "who cares")

@SolitaryMassacre I just explain the problem with Golden Knockdown Shields. And you replied with a casual comment.

Exactly why it getting reworked.

@Leo_the_Lion25 Actually this situation is rarely to see but I think that it is quite fair to let the gold knockdown shield users to stay alive even all 3 people are down.

Lets take an example of the following situation: Supposed there are only 2 teams (you and other team) left in the game and both of the teams are in Singh Labs Interior, except you are at the top while the enemy team is inside the lab. The round 7 ring forbids you to fight them as you will die while finding a path to enter the lab. Unlucky, your team does not have a wraith while the other team has. Then the result is obvious: your team loses as wraith can use her ability to stay longer in the final ring.

In the above example, can we say that wraith is broken as she is the only one who can stay in the ring for a little bit longer? No, as this is what Wraith can do in this situation. You lost as you are a little bit unlucky about that, so does the gold knockdown shield. It designed to prevent the team dies even all of the members are knocked, if you really want to complain these particular situations, then you should complain all these situations (such as a caustic using his traps to block the door completely while you don't have any explosives, or the situation I mentioned above, something like that etc).

However, I know that it is really unfair for teams who were the one who knock down the whole team but they didn't get any points. I think there is a solution, that the game should allow the gold knockdown shield users to keep their position point, but the team who knockdown the members from them can still earn points even they died before the gold knockdown users get killed (without being revived during the process). This will keep the advantage of the gold knockdown shield, but still can make the game fair.

I am sorry about this comment maybe a little bit messy to read.

@Xx__Miku831__xX Again, you're looking at it from a causal prospective and not a pro competitive prospective.

Most casuals don't even know how tournament points even work.

@Leo_the_Lion25 The calculation of tournament points is almost the same as the competitive mode in Apex. They are same that you get points when you kill someone, and a position point is given according to your team position in the match.

My idea is that the point should be added to the team who down them if the gold knockdown users are not being revived by their teammates (or themselves) even the team who downed them has been eliminated by third party, it prevents the third party to get the killing points from both of the 2 teams (as they did not do anything to down one team). It is just basically change the rule of the game to solve the problem.

@Xx__Miku831__xX THEY ARE NOT!

I'm done with this topic.

@Leo_the_Lion25 THEY ARE!!!

According to the its official rules (https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/apex-legends/compete/overview/rules), I will abstract it here:

D7. Scoring & Tiebreakers (Majors 1-3 only)
● At the end of each Match, Teams are awarded points for their placement and the Team’s total
number of kills (“Match Score”). The points awarded in each Match are:
o Placement
▪ 1st: 12
▪ 2nd: 9
▪ 3rd: 7
▪ 4th: 5
▪ 5th: 4
▪ 6th, 7th: 3
▪ 8th – 10th: 2
▪ 11th – 15th: 1
▪ 16th – 20th: 0

o Kills
▪ 1 for each kill
● At the end of each Round, a Team’s total points will include the Team’s Match Scores for all Matches in that Round (“Round Score”).

That is how tournament works.