Rework this broken gun. Imagine being a horizon up on his q and still being beamed by a mastiff for 70 damage 10 meters away while up in my ability. Seems balanced yea??

Mastiff still needs to be nerfed. I silenced this Wraith before she got on a building's zipline, and somehow she glitched past me and didn't exist at the same time. I'm guessing lag, but that's not really the problem, the problem is she shot me 3 times, and like none of these are headshots... but 106 to the body??? Uh... what?Tested damage in the firing range and only got this result:While the Peacekeeper does 6 more damage to the target when all bullets land, is that really the difference between standard and heirloom tier weapons? Also, why am I unable to get 106 damage done to the body, like in the death cap picture? Before anyone goes "you had low profile", I was playing as Revenant at the time, and Revenant doesn't have a low profile problem.I decided not to stop there, what does the max headshot damage do?Hmm... 143 Peacekeeper - 128 Mastiff = 15 damage difference. Be a little annoying to kill Caustics and Gibraltars, somewhat fine for normal legends, while low profile legends such as Wraith, would be taking about 145 // 130 damage respectfully. This renders the Peacekeeper practically useless. How so? Well, if you do 6-15 less damage per shot (assuming all bullets land and hits the target), why would you ever want to pick up a limited ammo gun?110-143 Peacekeeper: Can two shot purple and below players. If a player gets two headshots in a row, they do 286, which will knock red evo players, this should also knock fortified characters in two shots as well.106-128 Mastiff: Can two shot purple and below players. If a player gets two headshots in a row, they do 256, which will also knock red evo players, and most likely will knock fortified players. (I would have to test it on fortified players, but don't think I need to)Results: Both guns, while different in damage, can easily two shot pretty much anyone, (one shot no armor players), the only difference is one can choke the spread, but also have limited ammo. So why limit yourself, when the Mastiff is basically a ground care package weapon? Not to mention that these damages are AFTER the Peacekeeper got buffed a few seasons back, when it was care packaged. So, in reality, they would do virtually the same amount of damage.

18 matches today..... Not one single person ive come across is not using the effin mastiff. When will you get this garbage off the ground and back into a crate? EVERY TEAM. The game is losing its skill when you give it a point and shoot 1 shot wonder off the rip of a drop. The balancing skills at hand are just horrible tell the devs load into the game lets see how they love their own content.

@E9ine_ACHorizon is a she, and her lift (I'm pretty sure) is more than 10 meters high, but yeah. IMO The mastiff should still be a care package weapon. Peacekeeper is strong and was the meta, but an easy fix would be lowering damage or removing the choke. Instead they put a more wide-spread gun as floor loot.

@E9ine_AC This gun needs to be removed or heavily nerfed. I'm getting sick and tired of being instantly killed with it because its the gun people only ever use.You can empty a mag into someone and it won't mean anything because, guess what? You got mastiffed for 100+ in the head.

Mastiff requires no player skill every player has it for secondary weapon. If you are in 20 meters from an enemy who has a mastiff you have no chance. Needs to be nerfed . Otherwise why there are lots of weapons in this game if nobody uses them ? The most beautiful game i've ever played but this meta and SBMM is killing the game. Shame...

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38 Replies

Midnight9746
Hero
5 years ago
@E9ine_ACHorizon is a she, and her lift (I'm pretty sure) is more than 10 meters high, but yeah. IMO The mastiff should still be a care package weapon. Peacekeeper is strong and was the meta, but an easy fix would be lowering damage or removing the choke. Instead they put a more wide-spread gun as floor loot.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@Midnight9746 I refer as him as in me a man. They was 10 meters away not counting my air height. Still beamed me for 70.
Zamaha400
5 years ago
@Midnight9746 I just have to say that a wide spread is bad for fighting at a distance with a shotgun. The goal is to get as many pellets as possible to land on target.
Wide spread = higher chance to hit lower chance of high damage.
Narrow spread = lower chance to hit but higher potential for damage.
If your issue is the damage at range then complaining about the wide spread seems silly.
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@Zamaha400referring to the mastiff, to paraphrase: dont mess with the zohan. i always stop watching after the shorts and victory cry at 2:09

https://youtu.be/5OfAMHeIr7k
Midnight9746
Hero
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC This gun needs to be removed or heavily nerfed. I'm getting sick and tired of being instantly killed with it because its the gun people only ever use.

You can empty a mag into someone and it won't mean anything because, guess what? You got mastiffed for 100+ in the head.
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@Midnight9746 no don't mess with the zohan:

https://youtu.be/1M4ADcMn3dA
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@gg123xyzin a game with cheaters, hackers, bad team mates, uneven odds, ugly, the mastiff is a ray of good like beer and peanuts, leave it b.
https://youtu.be/m8xviC4rPLE
https://youtu.be/v75CFbaajKg
LordloshBang
5 years ago
I smell low tier players that doesn`t want Mastiff to be nerfed, cause their only chance to being better aimer will be gone.
The weapon is trash and i have said this from the very beginning of his reign, when they decide to put it on the ground as a normal weapon.
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@LordloshBang some people have recoil and standard guns with low power and face no recoil bs players and bs teammates and ugly and they like their mastiff.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
18 matches today..... Not one single person ive come across is not using the effin mastiff. When will you get this garbage off the ground and back into a crate? EVERY TEAM. The game is losing its skill when you give it a point and shoot 1 shot wonder off the rip of a drop. The balancing skills at hand are just horrible tell the devs load into the game lets see how they love their own content.