MOUSE AND KEYBOARD FOR CONSOLE/CROSSPLAY

@MoNosDirtyGaming 
I played Apex on PC and consoles (year on PC) and weeks one consoles. The mouse might be good at aim, but doesn't mean most people are good while using it.The keyboard is the bottleneck (my opinion).

Everyone has no fine movement at all (WASD) on PC, you're always moving at set steps with the keyboard. Some do have analog movement, but it's rare on keyboards.

Also don't forget that controllers do have better recoil handling. The data from the analog is constant, a mouse needs to be moved in that direction the entire time.

If companies would spend the same like logitech does on making the mouse better, controllers would be amazing. I bought my mouse in 2013, Logitech G502, works fine. There is pros and * to both devices. Also I can't compare the two devices as most game developers gimp the controller from the start in each game.

Apex Legends, can't loot while moving? Then the levels of aim assist companies feel necceasary, just because they don't want to put the time in on making the controls feel better without it.

Microsoft / Sony both make controllers cheap for a reason, it makes the a ton of profit. It's mostly because they cheap out on the analog sticks themself. It's 40cents to fix an analog, but most just buy a new controller.

There is the Logitech owned company Astro that makes the C40 TR. It has removable analog sticks, but still they charge $20 lol.So i'm not one to say one is better then the other. In my eyes, it's myth. I played with both very heavly. It is very hard to use mouse and keyboard, but so is controller sometimes.

Also I use a Razer Wolverine Ultimate controller. I never take my thumbs off my right analog stick, because I don't need to. The keyboard I own is a bloddy gaming 9564 I think. Has the gaming bla bla RGB with fancy digital switchs, Still like my controller more. With and without aim assist.

@MoNosDirtyGaming 

i would love the below to become common in video games.

Aim assist on both PC / Consoles be reduced and/ or removed.
It's really not that hard to aim without it. If a game has fine controls, Apex Legends is close (advanced menu), you can do wonders. I would just setlle for no aim assist lobbies as well.. Because I've played on PC with both a controller and mouse. So I know what it's like not having someone always aim assist you in the back.

Moving to consoles though, I know what it feels like now. Everyone just has master aim, it shouldn't be that. You should need to try in a shooter.

Mouse & keyboard support native on consoles.
That way people think to use that over just using 3rd party device like cronusmax etc. Also, If aim assist is not removed, it shouldn't work on players who have it disabled. Example, If a controller player has aim assist disabled in the advanced menu, another controller player with it enabled shouldn't be able to get aim slowdown, and turn on that said person.

I expect Respawn to add naive mouse and keyboard support soon. They follow everything from COD Warzone. Expect it around the crossplay time.

"every game has aim assist on console"
Wrong!
Rainbow six siege and Players Unknown Battlegrounds has no aim assist in the multiplayer in player verse player.

"Console did have keyboard support when it first released but they removed it as they knew it was unfair" I don't remember at any point Apex legends had mouse & keyboard support on consoles.

I couldn't find anything talking about Apex having mouse & keyboard support, ever. You thinking about when #Respawn talked about how they don't support the 3rd party devices like cronusmax because it allows users to use scripts?

Also, please trust me. Apex Legends will get mouse & keyboard support i'm sure of it. The rule for online F2P is you follow the biggest titles on the market no matter your personal opinion. 

When your competition has mouse & keyboard support, you add it, no questions asked. Like I said before, I have no worries about people using mouse & keyboard.

At the end of the day it comes down to making Apex grow. So you shoudln't ever see aim assist ever get messed with, as it will hurt the casuals. Apex Legends is EA's cash cow, like FIFA was.

I expect Apex Legends to get mouse & keybaord support when crossplay gets added (around Nov 10 and/ or COD Block Ops release date). I also see #Respawn adding more ways to respawn.

Rainbow six siege doesn't no, but pubg does on mobile. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTkAIbrENAE&ab_channel=Zendex

See attachment for M&K support via third party apps before Respawn tried their best to patch it after realising it was apart of native and players were taking advantage on PS4 by using third party apps so they weren't detected here.

This is Respawns official stance on M&K on consoles:

MOUSE & KEYBOARD USE ON CONSOLES

Our stance on this? The short answer is: we don't condone it. We are investigating ways to detect if players are doing it that we're testing internally. That's all we have to say on it for now but we'll revisit this and talk about progress with detection and how we'll address players that are using it in the near future.

And judging by Respawn banning players using M&K; I highly doubt they would decide to add support for M&K now. It would mean having to unban everyone who ever used a M&K. 

Where are you getting your dates for M&K support from nothing other than guesstimating? A more accurate guesstimation date would be the 20th when the PS5 is released around the world, but, you know just as well as me all we got was "Coming in Fall". 

The rule for online F2P is you follow the biggest titles on the market no matter your personal opinion

This isn't true, Apex went the complete other direction and they're doing well, they only started to copy Fortnites/Warzones after their ideas were stolen first, yet they still have unique ideas dropping every update. The first rule in business is to have a USP. Copying other F2P titles does nothing than make a clone, gives you no USP and makes you look like every other BR on the market. Above all, the game must also be fun else it will fail in all regards. Look at the battlefield that failed, it had so much promise, yet the lack updates and no USP in site destroyed it, despite being fun to play.

I actually find it wrong for console users to play against console users using mouse and keyboard. Just like on pc where things will be manipulated to give a player a edge over another. M/K movement is completely different from controller. So for console users to use this means you are giving yourself a advantage over fellow console users. While you see it as harmless those on console who cant move as you do or even stand a chance is harmful. Thats just my 2 cents. 

As far as i can tell console players dont get advantages over others as its strict controller verse controller. This is most fair gameplay one could ever ask for. You know how bad id wish pc was against pc users only? Not these 3rd party players using Strike packs - Xim and more. With these 2 = a aim assist from hell and back. These 3rd party plug in devices allow you to trick the pc into thinking that the controller is the main source of the pc in mouse movement. So whats this add? Aim assist to mouse and keyboard. Also plug in the recoil macros that are normally on xim web sites openly gave these 2 together = 100% unfair game play on PC. You be best to never want to try Pc unless you care to play with others who manipulate the games mechanics and nothing happening to them whats so ever.