Re: The Wingman and Peacekeeper are objectively overpowered

I don't think these guns are unbalanced at all actually, you guys just need to get better. The TTK of everything except p2020, mozabique, and maybe eva-8 are virtually identical. The wingman with skullpiercer is 2 or 3 shot kill for headshots only which with its fire rate puts it on pretty much the same kill time as even a flatline all headshots, or a prowler all headshots with selectfire or the r301. The problem is if you use an automatic weapon it will have recoil, and someone with a revolver with good aim will kill you if miss half you magazine with an automatic weapon. You have to play smarter don't rush a shotgun so hard, communicate, aim better, you'll find the balance is pretty good for most guns. Complain about the wingman lol? Stand next to someone with the r99 and stuff their skull with that bullet hose, they pretty much evaporate. Smg fire fast with some recoil so you need good aim close quarters, shotguns are close quarters and the hop up is strong but takes time to charge (maybe remove the ability to keep it charged by aim spamming?) I've gotten killed because of the charge time many times I don't even use that choke when I use that gun so expect to die from a shotgun within 15 meters, Bursts should go for the head (maybe slightly less recoil on prowler burst mode? Or a barrel attachment to do so?) And use cover more for Christ's sake, you can't run out with a flatline miss a 3rd of your clip and expect not to be punished for it. I've killed good wingman users many times, I've killed good peacekeeper users many times. Good aim, tactics, learning what guns aire oder the what, and also gee come to think of it ITS A BATTLE ROYALE BASED OF GETTING GOOD LOOT, a full set up wingman will perform better than an automatic weapon with no barrel or stock attatchment.

1 lucky shot isn't a reason to nerfind a gun. I've been killed by people with spitfires, wingmans, alternators, peackeepers, etc. If you aim good aimed get the drop on some they will lose. If I'm fighting 2 people, hit 1 heads hot with skull piercer and 4 body shots and 2 misses which is common for 6 shots, those 2 are still alive and have had over 2 seconds to kill me. If you miss you die, we can't just nerd everything because it kills people, next you'll be complaining aimed boutique he r99, or the hemlok.

That's the same argument that made snipers in call of duty horrible now in black ops 4, people complain about dying, frankly I have no problem using or fighting against either weapon. My only complaint is that some guns aren't strong enough, but to be fair that's to be expected in a br game, it's about loot.

And also "overpowered" is a very objective term, the way I see it revolvers firing heavy ammo are meant to hit hard, lever action shotguns 5 feet away are meant to hit hard. 9mm pistol like the p2020 maybe not so much.

Lol Yes, you are correct, the rest of the community (like all of us) is bad.

Well, now I'm down to a handful of friends playing this game because the rest got bored of either fighting against Wingman or bored of having to use it. Literally, you see most squads who know how to play FPS games run Wingman & PK combo because it's really the only viable weapon combo. Sure, you can use anything in a decent squad and wreck most teams if you are all good gamers, but equal opponents? No, you just can't compete with any other combo.

I am really tired of playing this game already and the rest I play with are too. I don't see this game lasting that long because of the above problem and now with the bugs appearing more and more, the stupidly designed hitboxes and unbalanced heroes, it seems the 'Best BR' game is actually turning into a piece of S**T that'll fall apart quicker than all other BR games.

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@MechaDraco wrote:
Just had a game where I was shot once with the wingman, turned around, unloaded half a clip from the Spitfire into this wraith. She was basically dead, then she just two tapped me because all of a sudden I couldn't hit her anymore due to her smaller hitbox and side stepping, and I'm a sitting duck as Caustic with my fat *.

I just don't see how hitting them, even with purple armor, I couldn't down them in 10+ shots, but she downs me with the same armor in 3. With a starting pistol no less.

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I played last night purposely avoiding wingman out of boredom.  Spitfire 30/60 shots on target on someone with blue armor no drop.  I dropped in purple to maybe 3 shots out of whatever their clip size was on their wingman.

what makes me shake my head is if that was wingman on wingman I win but I chose to not use the ez button.

next game I go back to wingman and win the game 1v3....