Aim assist is not cheating, regardless of your view about it.
I am a PC MnK player and have to deal with it. it is what it is.
Would love to be able to opt out of cross-play and or that there are Console only and PC only lobbies.
We sure could use the correct terms, it is not cheating thats for sure. It's an aimbot that is aloud to use.
May i use quoternion program to change my rotation which points to the enemy? No i may not use that because it's called an aimbot and it's not aloud to use.
So the question why should an aimbot be aloud depending which device the user playing? My opinion it should never be aloud, it is the device owner problem if he/she is unable use the controller which he/she decides to use.
It's an assist, not an aimbot.
The reason why one has an assist and one doesn't is because a mouse theoretically has more control whilst joysticks have less control.
Aim assist overall isn't an issue, though it depends on how much is required for it to balance out to the same level as a mouse.
Then we also have the difference between console and PC platforms, which IIRC is being done due to differences in performance and possibly because they lack other areas where PC doesn't fail.
I'm sure some tweaks can be made to aim assist, but it's not really an aimbot, even if it were, it's obviously going to be considered a legal aimbot due to it being an assist.
I think definion of an aimbot is that it rotates to the target automatically. So it is an aimbot, just by not making it not "too good" doesn't change it.
Again, it's an assist to level the playing field.
An aimbot is something that does it completely for you, aim assist, well, it assists you.
This has existed ever since joysticks were a thing, and now it has entered the playing field for some modern games.
Whilst other games might not find it necessary to implement it, some others might because well, it's intended to level the playing field.
There are quite a lot of notable differences between these 2 things, in my experience the aim assist in this game is not that comparable to an aimbot.
And you don't need perfect mechanical skill to excel in this game, even if you'd get rid of it people would adjust to it without a lot of problems.
Again, some tuning is fine, though I don't think it should be completely be removed.
@XHelperZ is probably lower than diamond or does not know what he is talking about. Above diamond masters ALL controller players use .cfg's and * which are also HACKS, i mean if i wrote a script to perform 30 activities in order with miliseconds each time i trigger a certain button its HACKING/SCRIPTING yet devs are okay with it. Aim assist this hard should be on AAA games with stories, where you lay on your coach to chill, shooting someone is easy because the main point is progressing the story. Yet Apex Devs are acting like Jr. developers who never played any competitive FPS games at this point.
It is simple. I gave THOUSANDS of hours in my life to get better at FPS games playing with MnK. Or leave me out the topic, PROS play this FPS genre for years way much more than me, and some certain point they SWITCH to controller, i mean they EARN and COMPETE at the HIGHEST level. As i said in my topic it is equally absurd as a FIFA Pro going keyboard because keyboard has advantage over controller, this is worlds first done by EA and Respawn but they are so ignorant that they just update the maps add some new hero and skins and buff controller slightly every other day idk. I hope we see this sorted out with S17, or i am out, playing since launch and frustration is out of the roof at this point.
I don't play competitive that much anymore, so I'd play around Plat to Diamond.
As for getting rid of AA, it seems like I forgot to add a thing.
I believe higher ranks wouldn't have that much of a problem adjusting to it.
As for lower ranks? Not so much.
If according to you this issue presents itself more in higher ranks then it's not an issue with the assist itself.
You could tune the AA as a whole or you could change how much % AA is active in a certain rank.
I believe that AA is still an assist as controllers and MnK are still not on an equal playing field, hence why an assist is put into place.
How strong the assist is or who gets the assist depends on certain factors that need to be fine tuned.
And please don't call me a troll.
We're having a normal discussion here, it's simply uncalled for.
Hello,@XHelperZ
Love this topic.
Let’s look at some facts and make some good deductions. I’ve already seen some fair points raised by both sides.
Aim Assist is a toned down aimbot with some functionalities removed and smoothed.
The intent of Aim Assist is to level the playing field, allowing for cross platform competition.
Console players will almost never get into PC lobbies unless they team with one.
Aim Assist has become a staple of shooters and therefore has some peer pressure effects on developers.
The quality of analog sticks in controllers had gone down this is a purposeful decision made by manufacturers.
There are controllers that are good.
Most controllers are designed to fail.
Aim Assist provides a higher ground floor than PC, but has a much lower skill cap.
Using steam configs for controller in PC is a gross abuse of Aim Assist
Console controllers and PC are balanced from a weighted scale, but only by those means. (The same way a good player will be given two bricks for teammates and thats called good match making)
Aim Assist is a bandage for a bigger issue.
To remove Aim Assist, the skill cap on PC must also be lowered, then we will have a truly balanced system.
Aim assist is literally cheating, people pay money for aim assist on PC. Therefore regardless whether you're on console or PC, it's an unfair advantage therefore cheating. Idiot
First off, game provided Aim Assist is not cheating, regardless of what you think. So lets not perpetuate misinformation.
Secondly, there is no need to call others names here.
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