Horizon should be removed now.This is not the time to be lukewarm about "we have no plans to remove Legend".Only this legend should be removed now, no questions asked.Horizon is no longer a legend that can be dealt with to the extent of weakening.It's a legend that was a mistake to implement in the first place.Therefore, the development team should correct this error by removing it now.This is a natural obligation of a responsible member of society and should be implemented as a matter of course.No company anywhere in this world should be so foolish as to leave something wrong as it is.To continue to implement Horizon without removing it is to make you a "stupid and foolish company" that is incapable of correcting its mistakes.As a natural duty of a member of society, you should remove the legend Horizon, which is a mistake in this very implementation, and correct the mistake now.It is a natural duty, obligation and job to fulfill.

@MayProtein Removing her is not going to happen, so we will just have to live with that. Ability changes could happen to her though. Looking at Revenant here.

Bro just main caustic, ash, fuse, seer, rev...These legends can easily counter horizon's abilities.Can't deny horizon is such a good legend tho (if u know wtf u doing of course). But removing her makes no sense at all.

@rikzin98Are you insane to think that you can easily compete with those legends?You can't compete with that level of legend by any stretch of the imagination.I mean, no legend can compete with that.The hitbox is the smallest, the footsteps are the least audible of all the legends, and all of the passive skills, tactical skills, and ULT are broken.I mean, it's obvious that this guy's very existence is obviously broken.It's obvious to everyone that only this legend is clearly playing a different game.In the first place, the very concept of this legend is a mismatch with this game, and this legend makes the game itself severely unhealthy, boring, and frustrating.You're saying it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to remove her?Rather, it's a prerequisite to bring this game back to a healthier and more sane state.The higher you go up the ladder, the more you realize how insane she is, and there is no way any legends can easily compete with her.In the lower levels, where the playing skill is not so demanding and the understanding of each character is not so high, there may be many situations where you can easily compete with these legends, but in the higher levels, there are no legends that can easily compete with her.

@Asmodeus566It's easy to see that this legend is OP enough just by looking at the current Horizon pick rates (especially in ranked matches).In apex, the basic premise is to take a higher ground than the enemy in order to gain a higher rank or gain an advantage, but with the Horizon, the whole team can easily take a higher ground with tactical ability that has a very short cool time and a very low sound level, making it difficult to be noticed by the enemy and allowing a fast ascent speed.Whereas in other Legends, this "take the high ground with the whole team" action requires a long coold time or a risky move ULT (Ash, Pathfinder, Valkyrie, Octane, etc.), in Horizon it is as simple as pressing an ability. And while levitating, you can attack, heal, and even move left or right to avoid enemy attacks.Furthermore, while other legendary players move extremely slowly while recovering, making it almost impossible to avoid enemy attacks, Horizon can recover while moving at high speed in the air once the Tactical Ability is deployed, and while deployed, the Tactical Ability can be used many times, making it possible to use the shield alone to avoid enemy attacks. If you ride your Tactical Abilities multiple times while they are deployed, you can also recover your strength with a medical kit while evacuating in the air at high speed.This alone is OP enough in this game.In addition to this, her footsteps are the most inaudible of all the Legends, and in a game where audio bugs frequently make enemy footsteps almost inaudible, it is quite difficult to hear the footsteps of Horizon in a blind spot, and she also has the smallest hitbox of all the Legends, and her extremely thin body makes her the most vulnerable to being hit by bullets. In this game, it is quite difficult to hear Horizon's footsteps from a blind spot.Furthermore, Horizon's passive skill allows her to act immediately after landing, while other Legends have an obvious gap to start moving again after coming down from a height, and her passive skill prevents her viewpoint from shaking when she lands. In addition, only Horizon can act first even if the enemy is at the same drop-off point as the first dropship.When it comes to ULT, it can be easily deployed to block the enemy's action, or to drag out an enemy who is recovering behind a door or a shield, allowing for an almost one-sided attack.With all these advantageous elements packed in, you still say you are not OP?I think it's clearly OP.And it's not the first time this has been said about Horizon, it's been said for over a year now.It's been said a lot, and yet it's been left in this state for over 10 seasons (and users have criticized and demanded improvements to this state many times), so I think it's only natural that words would be stronger.You say you don't get immediate results, but I'm saying this because I've been saying it for over a year and Respawn still hasn't done anything about it.

@MayProtein Making demands and calling the company names if they do not fulfill your demands will get you nowhere real quick. Maybe try explaining why Horizon is OP in your opinion and suggest ways on how to remedy/fix her. Constructive feedback is a great thing. IMHO Horizon is tough and a great pick to play however she is not all that OP and can be dealt with easily enough.

Remove Horizon now, no questions asked.

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SirCadogan1112
2 years ago
@MayProtein She do be having a goofy accent though
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Passive: decent, could be better
Tactical: Decent, but could reduce her accuracy for balancing
Ultimate: Trash.
The LoS Reveal is nice, but to me it's honestly useless.
It's a black hole for crying out loud. It doesn't reveal.
As for the inward pull, one pulse every 3 seconds is NOT a black hole function.
It should be a constant pull with a strength such that it takes a few seconds for a foe to sprint out of its radius, and take damage if they touch the device.
Also Auto-Executing downed opponents that touch it (see her finisher "Event Horizon")
touch damage and pull strength can be rebalanced and it should not reveal them
masterpredbeamU
2 years ago
caustic counter horizon? what?
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@MayProtein I never felt Horizon was too OP to begin with and she was actually my main for a couple seasons. With several of the new perks, I think that is even less of an issue now. For example, even though I haven't done it yet Caustic healing in his gas during a final ring building showdown feels pretty OP to me.
Tspin
2 years ago
@MayProtein horizon is by far the moat offensive legend. The biggest issue with the game is aim assistance. If players are given the option to play in lobbies without aim assistance enabled horizon becomes completely balanced. The issue is when the controller player no audio lands behind you and proceeds to one clip you without counterplay. If aim assistance abusers aren't around then the whole game changes for the better and legend balance is already complete. Honestly I'm not sure horizon is in the meta if you're playing in a lobby that does not have aim assistance enabled.
Khronikos
2 years ago
Horizon, introduction of ropes and doubling down on Valk's OP as god Ult for everyone, matchmaking, and faster rings has completely ruined this game. I have no idea why anybody still plays this outside of it being their drug addiction.
I count solo play and through 3-4 hours of play I just wasn't having any fun but for maybe ten minutes of it. That's it for me. Game gets installed during an event, and then uninstalled immediately. They have completely ruined the game for solo players.
Khronikos
2 years ago
Tactical is just miserable to play against. Good lord. Just kill it already.

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