What TSM Viss thinks about the current SBMM in casual

Whhaaa whaaa you like killing low skill players we get it.

@Boa767 

Sure, I like killing players regardless of their skills but unlike you, I dont cry when a better player then kills me; I learn from it and get better.

Well that's your problem you like killing people lower skill than you and padding your stats which are obviously not realistic stats are they, you're not as good as you thought you were.

I think it's brilliant that they're adjusting the SBMM they should now tighten up the ranked SBMM so players 10 rank lvls below don't get matched with people higher up.

The only point these SBMM whiners make that is remotely valid is that grouping with lower skilled players when you're a high skilled player is more difficult now, maybe that should be looked at more.

@Boa767 

You literally make zero logical sense.

"Well that's your problem you like killing people lower skill than you and padding your stats which are obviously not realistic stats are they, you're not as good as you thought you were."

Do you even think before typing? Like I said in my OP, skill is relative. You obviously havent even understood that concept (google relative or ask mommy) when you write that "I dont think Im as good as I think I was"... What the hell does that even mean? My skill is what it is and my "stats" is a reflection of those skills compared to the rest of the player base IF the matchmaking was picked randomly from said player base. So speaking of "realistic" stats; the only "unrealistic" version of those stats is exactly what the new SBMM is leading to, namely a K/D that will go towards 1.

It makes perfect sense. Your problem is you think that your K/D equals your skill at the game when it doesn't 3.00 K/D isn't realistic for the majority of the players, If you were to play games which are fair which Ranked is for the most part (when it's not putting predator players in diamond IV games) your K/D would be around 1.00 - 2.00  on average.

My K/D from playing only ranked is 1.63 which is average, if I was to only play casual/quick play before the SBMM change I could have easily inflated that to around 5.00 or something ridiculously unrealistic. It would have been easy to stomp new players and low skilled players all day long to boost my stats.

it's a meaningless stat anyway when RNG decides a lot of the outcomes of games such as if the drop was bad, loot, team that you have been matched with and the ring closing in.

Okay first of all Ranked stats and normal game stats are totally different thing and they totally mean something different. Ranked stats means in your league how well you do, normal game means how well you do amongst ALL PLAYER BASE; you may encounter best player in apex, you may encounter the worst player so its just that.

 If you like SBMM then play ranked all day even if they remove the SBMM then you will be always fighting in your skill range right ? Oh, you dont like that right? Nor do i since my casual games are now skrim lobbies! People putting down fences, holding buildings stressful games why do i want that when i want to chill ? Btw i am not that good of a player which brings another problem, i get farmed in every normal game lobby and in ranked. There is nowhere i can go from this? I cant play the game anymore because OBVIOUSLY i am not top tier player! So why the hell i am in these lobbies? Because i managed to get to Diamond? I got into diamond, i saw yeah predators are ripping me apart, there is no way i can move forward so stopped playing it. Then in my normal lobbies same thing happens. They are not in my skill level! 

 Oh one more thing, SBMM right well it is not applied within your squad! So i get the teammates which are lvl 20-50 s which has no idea about high tier matches (no coms, no pings, no info) and we get stomped on by pre made full 20-40k kill players. So how do you want me to enjoy this? Can you explain ?

 Without SBMM my normal games were like; some games i dominate kill all, some games i got so outplayed and see their stats and laugh. Now every game i get killed by top tier players with crazy low tier teammates which drives me insane! I cant laugh about it anymore so i become toxic. I yell at people that are bad in this game and yeah they dont deserve this level of toxicity.

 So 2 parts to this arguement; 

 1) Does that low tier players deserve to get * on in my lobby and become furious?

 2) As a mediocore player do i deserve to get * on every match with useless teammates?

 I think SBMM hurt players like me the most, the people who are in between being top tier players-averadge players. We have nowhere to have fun. Top tier players say oh its too sweaty yeah but you can still win, I can not. My team dies to any team we run into. So the only way for me to at least have some fun in normal lobbies is to find 2 more players and play as hard as we can to even contest. Man why do i need constant hardwork in a video game ?

------------Or better yet here is an example; think of yourself as okay player and you want to play a single player game that you lovveee to play. Next day it only allows you to play in the most hardcore difficulty which you cant progress in anything. How long are you going to try and keep dieing? or will you just say yeah thats it i dont want to see the endgame and quit? Thats exactly where i am now. 

 Then i get bored, create a smurf, then get into the normal lobbies and kill everyone, get 4k badge in the first match. Then farm trough the lobbies. Oh * it made the situation even worse for the new player base that wants to play this game right? Because there is so many people creating smurf accounts now! 1/2 of the lobby is lvl7 players with 70-100 kills. So how is the situation with the new playerbase? Its not fair to them, its not fair to me.

 First of all you have to seperate 1-30 lvl 30-60lvl 60-100lvl 100+ lvl now there is 500 so there can be many different seperations and mine are just an example so yeah look at the data seperate lvl 500 s to lvl 100 s then apply sbmm amongst them(or dont apply, they spent the same amount of time in the game, so they should have similar experience). Otherwise this circle of life will continue and you will achieve nothing. It will just make players angry, smurf players will not buy skins, they will not buy skins to their mains because they cant use them.. it is certainly a loose loose situation. 

@Boa767 

Lets just agree that you and I have too different ways of looking at logical arguments to even speak to each other. Everything you write makes me seriously lose hope for the future of humanity. I respect and even understand the subjective opinion that some people want to have this SBMM in casual. For instance, if you are below the mean of the normal distribution curve of skill for all the player bas, then you will benefit from a SBMM. Its a total valid opinion which I just disagree with for the reasons I stated in my original post. 

But you have said so many stupid things that Im not even gonna answer them. But lets just start with how you hard focusing on K/D when I explicit stated in my very first post that I dont see K/D as the absolute measurement of skill, but I used K/D as a simplified reflection of skill for the --> sake of the argument <--.  So when you then "counter" me with stupid things like "Your problem is you think that your K/D equals your skill at the game when it doesn't " thus literally thinks the focus is on K/D as a stat, well  it just proves to me that you dont understand the deeper meaning of what I say.

So lets agree to disagree and have a nice day.

Just so everyone is aware..

If you like SBMM and the state that its in right now, it means you're not a good player..

 just fyi..

pubs are casual fun against random players of all levels.

ranked is sweating it out against players of your skill level.

Casual gameplay needs to be fun needs to be a mix of every skill and every game type people have not a SBMM thats what we have ranked for. First of all u cant say people like to kill low skilled players if they are actually decent at the game bcz every gamer wants to get challanged but not in this sweat lobbies we have right now. This game is ruined every game that implemented this was ruined up to a point they had to take this out of it bcz people litterally stopped playing them. Thats a fact. They didnt stop playing bcz they couldnt kill anyone but bcz the whole point of gaming was ruined. I can also say that 40% of those TTV and and the 4k+ players are cheaters and no one is gonna convince me otherwise. Here is the other issue whitch came with this and that is ping issues bcz its taking so long to find a game and god knows on what server it throws you on when there isnt 10k kills players on your chosen one. So this game is going down if the devs think we gonna accept this SBMM.

ooh the tears glorious tears