Is it just me or has this game really gone downhill?It seems every other match I am CONSTANTLY getting toxic teammates.More often than not it's the solo launcher who lands somewhere else, dies, and immediately quits. When I do get a decent team, they are almost always unexperienced, and we are going up against Preds and Masters. I've been playing long enough to notice there's a huge difference in gameplay, almost every match is super sweaty now. I love playing, but this game is starting to seem like you need to play it all day, every day, with a few friends in your party to remain competitive.

@Bladerunner78mh If they don't make changes to matchmaking, anti-cheat, & Ranked, it definitely will fade into obscurity. I'm maybe a season behind you in the process of leaving Apex.Respawn also doesn't do themselves any favors with me either by their lack of communication to the community & commitment to fixing the issues that are plaguing the game right now. Content drops & collection events are less than meaningful to me and even become offensive the more time goes without meaningful change being made to the things that really impact the player experience.

@Jlp0602 Their toxic quests promote the toxic play.Play this char 12x = Go play this char you don't like and die as fast as you can and quit.etc...

@Jlp0602 Basically you do have to olay it every day for hours a day to get consistently good and you need to have a solid group of friends to 3 stack with. Otherwise, @reconzero is right. You need to find something in the game to like while you're getting paired with randoms and smashed by cheaters/smurfs/3-stacks. Personally, I play for the games that feel normal and bail on bad situations quickly. Sometimes I'm in the mood to do it & sometimes I want to put my fist through my monitor. Just depends on the day TBH.

apex is dying.unfortunately, apex is on the decline. it's a shame that respawn keeps making the wrong decisions, setting the wrong focus and the game is slowly dying.this season has really accelerated the whole thing.it's nice that respawn thinks they can push the game for another 10 years, but i don't believe it. it's currently losing so many players and the cheater problem is getting worse and worse. no improvement in sight. constant server problems. and the ridiculous matchmaking and ranking system is the joke of the century. i've been playing from day 1 and have more than 8000 hours of playtime, i loved the game, but it's coming to an end. playing alone is hardly possible as i am put into lobbies that usually far exceed my skill and only in a group is there any fun. it is almost unbearable. i play less and less and the sessions are getting shorter and shorter. my plan after my BP is at 110 is to leave the game for now and if i find fun elsewhere maybe not come back. too bad respawn but you just don't have it in you to make such a great game a good gaming experience for everyone.

@Jlp0602How a four year old game can continuously attract new players is beyond me, and yet, like you, my squadmates are pretty consistently players with very few matches under their belt.And the high-skill three stacks have to play somebody since there are not enough of them to put them all in a single match in a timely fashion. Hence the roulette wheel of fps sbmm.If you solo queue then you pretty much have to make up your mind to find something in the game to occupy your attention other than hardcore competition.

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17 Replies

reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Jlp0602

How a four year old game can continuously attract new players is beyond me, and yet, like you, my squadmates are pretty consistently players with very few matches under their belt.

And the high-skill three stacks have to play somebody since there are not enough of them to put them all in a single match in a timely fashion. Hence the roulette wheel of fps sbmm.

If you solo queue then you pretty much have to make up your mind to find something in the game to occupy your attention other than hardcore competition.
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Jlp0602 Basically you do have to olay it every day for hours a day to get consistently good and you need to have a solid group of friends to 3 stack with. Otherwise, @reconzero is right. You need to find something in the game to like while you're getting paired with randoms and smashed by cheaters/smurfs/3-stacks. Personally, I play for the games that feel normal and bail on bad situations quickly. Sometimes I'm in the mood to do it & sometimes I want to put my fist through my monitor. Just depends on the day TBH.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@HappyHourSumwur

"play for the games that feel normal and bail on bad situations quickly"

I hate to say it but my most well-developed skill in this game is divining the playability of any given situation and the quality of enemies... before it's too late and they've sprayed my face against a wall. In this I'm a master. And yes, I too will walk away from these situations without compunction.
Kyldenar
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@reconzero wrote:
@Jlp0602

How a four year old game can continuously attract new players is beyond me, and yet, like you, my squadmates are pretty consistently players with very few matches under their belt.

And the high-skill three stacks have to play somebody since there are not enough of them to put them all in a single match in a timely fashion. Hence the roulette wheel of fps sbmm.

If you solo queue then you pretty much have to make up your mind to find something in the game to occupy your attention other than hardcore competition.

That's that Type 4 Churn I have talked about. So far, the marketing from feeding Type 4s and 5s to the Type 2's is still working out, but once that stops pulling in new is when the game starts the big decline. Comments here and on Twitch about the matchmaking is indicating that new Type 4's are slowing and Type 5 has mostly given up on the game (like me, I admit to being a trash casual type 5 easily).
How long before the cannibalism of Types 1 to 3 starts I can't say, but seems to be getting closer, if not started on the fringe. As I say, the only 'free to play PvP games' I have seen beat this cycle have something to bring in the casual type 5s (usually a PvE mode, or a mass PvP mode like Guild Wars 2 where individual performance is harder to measure) to help reduce churn, or at least give a population boost at new cycles on the regular.
But we'll see. There was that rumored PvE mode for the game, then rumored canceled, then rumored back on the menu. When they were still doing story they seemed to be setting up a 'fighting the syndicate' storyline, and I think that would make a great cooperative PvE mode, a 'Frontier Offense' if you will. But we'll see.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Kyldenar

"rumored canceled, then rumored back on the menu"

I heard canceled, but I didn't hear it was back on. That's good news. I keep saying: for all the changes they've made to the firing range, they're now so close to a legitimate PvE mode that they may as well press ahead.
Bladerunner78mh
3 years ago
apex is dying.
unfortunately, apex is on the decline. it's a shame that respawn keeps making the wrong decisions, setting the wrong focus and the game is slowly dying.
this season has really accelerated the whole thing.
it's nice that respawn thinks they can push the game for another 10 years, but i don't believe it. it's currently losing so many players and the cheater problem is getting worse and worse. no improvement in sight. constant server problems. and the ridiculous matchmaking and ranking system is the joke of the century. i've been playing from day 1 and have more than 8000 hours of playtime, i loved the game, but it's coming to an end. playing alone is hardly possible as i am put into lobbies that usually far exceed my skill and only in a group is there any fun. it is almost unbearable. i play less and less and the sessions are getting shorter and shorter. my plan after my BP is at 110 is to leave the game for now and if i find fun elsewhere maybe not come back. too bad respawn but you just don't have it in you to make such a great game a good gaming experience for everyone.
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Bladerunner78mh If they don't make changes to matchmaking, anti-cheat, & Ranked, it definitely will fade into obscurity. I'm maybe a season behind you in the process of leaving Apex.

Respawn also doesn't do themselves any favors with me either by their lack of communication to the community & commitment to fixing the issues that are plaguing the game right now. Content drops & collection events are less than meaningful to me and even become offensive the more time goes without meaningful change being made to the things that really impact the player experience.
KelRiever
3 years ago
There is a lot of cheating these days. I mean, you can see people not being good, but having triple the number of kills of the next best player half way though more than a few mix tape games.
I really wasn't personally experiencing much cheating up until now (having dropped playing this barely into last season), but really, how do you not control this problem at this level?
Bladerunner78mh
3 years ago
There are other games that do not completely eliminate the issue of cheaters, but have it much better under control, such as Respawn's approach in Apex Legends. In other games, hackers can manipulate algorithms to disrupt matches, causing delays in gameplay. It's disheartening to see cheaters participating in Apex Legends' competitive matches, and there are numerous videos online documenting these incidents. This is an incredibly embarrassing situation for Respawn. However, it raises questions when I play a trio match and find the champion squad comprised of predator-ranked players, while I myself only have a KD (Kill/Death ratio) of 1, which unfortunately happens frequently. I have never been anywhere near as skilled as the justification for encountering master-ranked players in nearly every match suggests.
Prior to this season, which is already out of the question, I had never achieved a higher rank than Diamond 3. Yet, I find myself being obliterated by players with flawless aimbot capabilities. I witness it happening and shortly after, I am also taken down by another player using an aimbot. It has been a long time since I experienced such occurrences live in Apex Legends, but unfortunately, it seems to be on the rise again. This begs the question: Where is the promised upgrade for the anti-cheat system?
cobrakev98
3 years ago
I have been wanting a permanent solo mode since launch . I remember it was the biggest thread back then as well . Any game that forces me to play with idiots well .... was designed by an idiot . No reason not to keep teams and just add a solo BR mode for those that dont want to play with other people .