I think one thing that is discouraging to new (not me) or weak (me) players is that it’s hard to convert knocks to kills. My feeling is that if I knock a player, that should count as a K for me. After all, when I get knocked my after game death counter goes up. I can literally die multiple times in one game, and often do. It’s unreasonable to expect new/weak players to have to kill off an entire enemy team so your Knocks become kills. This game behavior means that a player’s K/DR ratio is more a measure of tram effectiveness than a player’s effectiveness. I only play randoms and clearly most of the random teams I’m on rarely survive the first enemy team we encounter.

@Frosty20203 This is one of the skills that you need to improve or learn. Not only killing but also finishing your downs. What makes apex unique is its time to kill which longer compared to other shooters. Yes it's easier to kill people when you can communicate with your squad through mic. I suggest to stray away first from sniping since all your knockdowns will only be revived by the enemy teammate if you're too far,

@Cheese9Man This is literally why I don't really bother sniping on Apex! My long range knocks just end up getting rez'd, so I just tend to stick with SMG/AR/LMG. Also, I'm bad, so that affects my weapon choice too

@dSKyNafinchin Used to use the Triple take a lot (pre-carepack) when I want to farm for a 2k badge. LOL!Sniping can really annoy the enemy but not really wipe them out. Same here the longest ranged weapon that I'll use is a G7 or an R301.

@Frosty20203 Hi. I suspect the situation you're referring to is not getting a kill after thirsting an enemy one of your team mates has knocked. You need to make the shot that knocks a person to be awarded the kill. If you knock someone and you are still alive when they are boxed or thirsted, you will be awarded a kill.

Hey Frosty,It all takes time. All being fair, each squad enter the arena representing 5% of the lobby. So if the SBMM has done its job (haha) everyone has a 5% chance of winning each lobby. So on average you will lose 95 out of 100 games. Most important aspect of a player is the ability to be a good teammate. Sharing loot, looting quickly, sticking together, using the ping system.From an individual point of view, concentrate on raising your average damage. Also, if you down someone, do not get crazy, relax the fight is not over until the teammates are downed. Ensure the player does not have a gold knockdown shield and see out the rest of the fight. Find some people to play with, it always helps. We have a club on PlayStation if you need some help.

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RockDokRock
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Frosty20203 I feel your pain.

If you get knocked that does not count as a death, that's not true. Your death coutner goes up only when you're turned into a deathbox.

In a heated battle it's usually better to accept the knockdown and fighton rather than go for the kill; the number of times It's ended badly for me because I was thirsting for the kill I've lost count of.

I have the same problem. Plenty of knockdowns and not many kills. It's normal. Keep at it.

- DR
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@Frosty20203 This is one of the skills that you need to improve or learn. Not only killing but also finishing your downs. What makes apex unique is its time to kill which longer compared to other shooters. Yes it's easier to kill people when you can communicate with your squad through mic. I suggest to stray away first from sniping since all your knockdowns will only be revived by the enemy teammate if you're too far,
dSKyNafinchin
Hero
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man This is literally why I don't really bother sniping on Apex! My long range knocks just end up getting rez'd, so I just tend to stick with SMG/AR/LMG. Also, I'm bad, so that affects my weapon choice too
Frosty20203
4 years ago
Yes sorry. Should have said I can get a knock and then finish them to a deathbox. But that still isn’t a kill unless their entire squad gets killed. Again, that means my K/DR is more reflective of the types of teams I’m on rather than my ability to win gunfights. All I’m saying is that is discouraging. I see my knock stats going up though. But what does that get me? I’m still not getting good skins or apex pack rewards after several years because my k/dr stays below .3 even though my knock stays are good.
I’m convinced that if I knock someone else then I finish them, that should be a kill for me, even if they get Respawned. After all, Spawn is defined as offspring or new life. When you are respawned your death counter goes up by one. That’s a kill. I want credit for it! No if’s or buts! If I can die multiple times in a game then I should get credit when I finish enemies. I know everyone has been programmed to accept the current way of counting kills, but you all gotta stop drinking the koolaid. Me killing one enemy is every bit as an accomplishment to me as a pred killing an entire squad and then getting 3 kills. Hey! I killed one so give me my one! I demand it!
want more players in Apex? Change the way you award kills. Trust me!
Frosty20203
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man wrote:
@Frosty20203This is one of the skills that you need to improve or learn. Not only killing but also finishing your downs. What makes apex unique is its time to kill which longer compared to other shooters. Yes it's easier to kill people when you can communicate with your squad through mic. I suggest to stray away first from sniping since all your knockdowns will only be revived by the enemy teammate if you're too far,
My long range shots rarely hit. I do have a long range kill badge though. I feel lag is messing up my sniping opportunities.
hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@Frosty20203 You don't have to kill the entire team to get a kill for the person you downed. If you down and anyone on your team boxes them before your team dies you get the kill.
Frosty20203
4 years ago
@hayhor wrote:
@Frosty20203You don't have to kill the entire team to get a kill for the person you downed. If you down and anyone on your team boxes them before your team dies you get the kill.
Not sure I understand that. I thought to be awarded a kill, you have to knock an enemy and then that entire same squad must be wiped out (killed) and you need to survive that enemy squad. Are you saying if my teammate finishes someone who I knocked, then I get a kill even if the other squad later survives? Sorry if I’m misreading your comment.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@Frosty20203 You get a kill as long as you turned that downed enemy into a deathbox. Ask away if you have any other questions. We're happy to teach a thing or two. Don't worry you'll eventually pick these things up and get better at the game. 👍
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@dSKyNafinchin Used to use the Triple take a lot (pre-carepack) when I want to farm for a 2k badge. LOL!

Sniping can really annoy the enemy but not really wipe them out. Same here the longest ranged weapon that I'll use is a G7 or an R301.
hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@Frosty20203 Yes, if you down and box 2 of a team and the other runs away you get the kills. You can kill the person multiple times in a match.