Dude the HAVOC

@TXC_RafaelIt’s more common to get wasted by the havoc because of it’s larger than R99 bullet size, but if ppl know how to use an R99, which in the lobbies I’m in usually, you die with base clip more often. But this can be different for every player/lobby obviously. But like the ‘I’m not so literal’ OP seemingly infers in his initial post, this was more a post correlated to the speed it needs to down you as opposed to skill to wield it. Otherwise base mastiff could also be here now... as it stands it, in right fingers it can kill you roughly in same time as the havoc can.

they might do the energy clips again and you’ll see this happening; ‘TOO MUCH BULLETS IN PURPLE CLIP’ ‘BASE HAVOC SUCKS NOW’ ‘REMOVE ENERGY CLIPS’ XD like what happened before XD

@boy_Hoodle, don’t worry about it. There’s ppl who take some things very literally so you just have to be as precise as possible so they know what you really mean. Just making you aware of that fact ^.^

@boy_Hoodle  If the havoc Mag size gets nerfed they need to add back the turbo charger.

301 , r99 and prowler all out dps the havoc. So many bad players who love to complainabout everything because their brain is non functional, it has to stop!! even seeing people complain about others strafe shooting them “crouch spamming should be nerfed because i cant do it” wtf is wrong with these scrubs??

@Koochi-Qor that terrifying sound you hear behind you seconds before your death when you're trying to run away with 50 hp? :D that's a lot of "you"' in one sentence lol.

yeah the statistic is when the havoc actually starts shooting. all guns have their use and can shred you within seconds, but the problem about havoc for me is that that it has his full fire power as soon as you pick it up, mastiff for example may have high damage but the firerate is garbage without a shotgun bolt. or r99 my favorite gun really starts to shine as you get that extended mag.
How often could I kill 2 enemies easily with one havoc clip off drop, that gun definitely needs a different change than adding some recoil imo.

hope you understand my english lol

@TXC_Rafael  Basically, energy mags were removed after the sniper class was added, originally it was only light,heavy energy. This moved the triple take out of the energy class and i'm pretty sure the L-star used to use them too but that was reworked( So many buffs nerfs and reworks my memory gets a lil hazy with guns i don't care about).

So obviously this left only the havoc using energy mags...and having multiple energy mags strewn across the map for a previously deeply unpopular gun made no sense so they buffed the hell out of the havoc and removed energy mags from the loot pool...hence the mess we have today and the reason for this post.

In short, havoc needs a lower mag capacity if it aint requiring mag attachments.

The Havoc without any attachments performs like a fully kitted weapon. 

-Simple recoil

-Large projectiles

-Minimal bullet drop

-Large mag

-High DPS

-Needs no attachments

In a game built around looting and building weapons, this gun is the definition of “problem”.