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I would say Fragments is the problem, then, and not World's Edge.
WE is still my favorite map, though for a while there I kind of thought it might be Olympus (I still love Olympus, but the new Olympus has lost its edge. Truth is, the new WE lost it over the original too).
There's been a lot of requests to nuke Fragments. But there's always going to be a favorite zone to drop into. Instead of nuking it, reduce the loot there and people will both hate it and stop dropping there.
Or, like, put land mines in there. That might be even better :D
- @KelRiever People will probably just gravitate towards sorting factory if fragment is gone. I like that I have a choice to drop if I wanna be sweaty or play it somewhat safe in this map. Still hate KC to the bone though but I get that some people like that map.
There is a theory to the logic of leaving a steaming hot drop zone for all those who want to put their face into the pile.
But I'd redesign it. A while ago I promoted the idea of a small room where everybody could just jump into and have a fistfight. Sort of like the lab on King's Canyon but without the whole charade of a story behind it. Just a big plain room for all the steaming hot drop you could ever want to get warm in and everybody who wants to can go there. Nobody can get out until one team wins and they get the price of a gold P2020 each.
Now imagine how much harder it would be for most people to win a match if all us hot droppers spread out and played every match like it was a tournament lol.
12 squad final circles would be the next complaint.
- @MandatoryIDtag 🤣 Now your just going too extreme the other way. If teams spread out they'd still fight naturally during the game but maybe it would be better because teams would have stuff. Pro ranked doesnt end up like algs at all but is well balanced. Teams spread out and then take on fights. Watching Rogue it rarely comes down to more than 3 or 4 teams at end circle.
@MandatoryIDtag lol, true enough! I mean that’s why I just don’t drop there and let the pile on happen. To be honest I think people who drop hot also just end up doing it all wrong. If I do stick with a team going into fragment (which won’t be in ranked), I try to land you know not exactly dead center between all teams, if it’s ranked I land outside separately but nearby, so if they are cool enough to survive, I’ll be nearby ish
I was being a touch dramatic yeah. 😛
In all seriousness though I watched KC final rings change dramatically for quite a while after they removed skull Town. Would regularly have 6-7 squads in last circles and It became a sniperfest. This is literally how I got most of my early sniper training in lol.
I'm pretty sure people were complaining about this back then also.
Long story short, hot drops are part of the game, if you don't like them avoid them....play the game how you want to play it let others do the same. ^.^
- @WreckingVi Here is the main problem for me. While I agree with you that it sucks, it is also one of the better designed POI's for fun gunfights. My main issue with both Olympus and World's Edge is that there is just too much dead space that is uninteresting and not fun to fight.
@MandatoryIDtag I think the real point is simply not even that it's part of the game, but it's kind of part of most Battle Royals.Balance is tricky and I think Apex is very heavy on map design the way their game plays. There will always be a perceived 'best zone' to drop in, based on loot, on people who want to see action right away, wherever.
However, Skulltown was, and Fragment still is, probably too much in favor of one zone. Instead of nuking it, which I mostly root for because it would be hilarious (see Skull Town tears), I think a moving around of the loot boxes would work out. Like there are just so many of them dead center in the town, and that's where the YOLOs go to die.
With so many buildings and cover (which is one thing I like about Fragment), I think more loot inside buildings rather than binds on roof could help. And maybe spread them out better so it's less like a bullseye of loot and more like a ring.
- @illnastyone Skyhook still exists for building gun fights. The only reason it isnt as popular is because it isnt in the center of the map. If you look at all of the popular drop spots they are all somewhat map centered.
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