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Re: EAC Update

Once again, I meet lvl 7, 12 and 15 in the lobby - all three of them cheat and use wallhacks. You definitely updated your anti-cheat, 100%, I already believe you. 🙂

Of course, I report these players, but it doesn't help. Maybe you can ban them after a month and he will create another account.

15 Replies

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    12 months ago

    @Miss_Apex_B4_s20 Actual cheats are not easy to detect. Lets get that info out the way. No game and I mean no game at all can prevent cheaters. Nor has a game ever accomplished it.

    I think you may be mistaken on what is going on here. This new update is for software/hardware not allowed to be used. Such as Xims, Cronus, Crosshair X, and many more other programs that offer cheat abilities. Aka cheat ability would be bypassing a games mechanic to remove recoil and or add aim assist to mouse and key.

    The detection systems are always out for actual cheaters but cheat creators are very smart and do find ways around current blockings. This was to help with third party devices.

  • AymCTL's avatar
    AymCTL
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    @E9ine_AC Thank you, this is good to know. They are definitely moving in the right direction. While things may not be perfect overnight, I have a feeling they will keep getting better starting with this. They have identified the problem and are taking action. Also good they are keeping the exact mechanics of this confidential so it will be harder for the makers of these cheats to make adjustments.
  • RETIRED_CAUSTIC's avatar
    RETIRED_CAUSTIC
    New Adventurer
    12 months ago

    @E9ine_AC For 22 seasons, 1/3 of the cheaters have been running in the game, but now there are much more of them. In fact, for 5 years now nothing can be done about it.

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    12 months ago
    @Miss_Apex_B4_s20 No one is forcing you to play. If you feel cheaters are not being dealt with or a horrible job is being done there are other games out there that may fit your expectations. Overall a giant potion of the apex population was extremely glad to see this. I am sorry it struck you so negatively that the company is actually taking actions against 3rd party devices and such.
  • CCbathwater's avatar
    CCbathwater
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago

    They struck down on Cronus and stuff? Wow, for like 5 years I've been told over and over that you couldn't, as they were "undetectable". Seems something is only undetectable until the day that it suddenly isn't. 🤔 

  • 1-mf's avatar
    1-mf
    12 months ago
    @CCbathwater No, Cronus, G-hub, Synapse are still active - they cant ban them because Razer, Cronus Zen and Logitech are too big to deal with them. They just banned the free coding softwares like auto-hot-key 🙂
  • 1-mf's avatar
    1-mf
    12 months ago
    @E9ine_AC Exactly!!!!!! No one is forcing you to play, its your choice to stay and deal with them. But lets be honest are you really facing cheaters with aimbots and god moves or just controller players? Show us videos of them 🙂
  • AymCTL's avatar
    AymCTL
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    @E9ine_AC When is this EAC update taking effect? The cheating was very bad tonight. I'm thinking about taking a break from the game until they implement this patch. Do they have a date yet?
  • CCbathwater's avatar
    CCbathwater
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    @E9ine_AC "This new update is for software/hardware not allowed to be used. Such as Xims, Cronus, Crosshair X, and many more other programs that offer cheat abilities."

    @1-mf "No, Cronus, G-hub, Synapse are still active - they cant ban them because Razer, Cronus Zen and Logitech are too big to deal with them."


    So which one is it?
  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    12 months ago

    @CCbathwater What all can be detected is still unknown. There are a few people have stepped forward claiming its blocked. When I had mentioned those devices it was more of an explanation on what this update may be looking for. As of now what is known to be blocked thus far is.... 

    Reshade
    Crosshair X
    AHK files and scripts typically used for anti-recoil

    Im sure the list will go on as more honest people who use these step forward stating they no longer work. Which I can understand them not saying what all has been blocked to keep the detections more secret. One can only hope for Xim, Cronus as well.

  • AymCTL's avatar
    AymCTL
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago

    @E9ine_ACI don't think anything is blocked yet. The cheating has actually gotten much worse since this was announced. Tonight pc was near unplayable, every player downed me in one hit in a gun run tonight, some didn't even bother to ads, with hipfire they did a perfect headshot with rapid fire and aimbot from a distance. It would be nice if we had a date set that this was going to take effect.

    Switch version isn't quite as bad, but I did see 4 or 5 people that looked fishy to me in mixtape. I only reported the pc ones though.

    Edit to add:  I think they are all trying to get all the use they can out of their boxes before this update comes out.  That probably explains the increase in cheating the last few nights, lol.

  • @CCbathwater Cronus still works.

    Banning driversoftware like razer ghub etc doesn’t do anything since the macros get safed on the device.
  • AymCTL's avatar
    AymCTL
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    @BallisticMVP Yes, that's why I don't think this update is up yet, but the announcement got all the people that use it to go on at the same time. I've never seen lobbies like the ones I saw in the game last night.

    I'm wondering if maybe the real answer, if there's no way to detect this stuff, is to measure the timing of kills. For instance, the Flatliner should kill someone at a certain distance in a specific amount of time, if the gun empties out in a rapid fire fashion to kill instantly then this should flag the player for review. Maybe same could be done with recoil, a gun should move a certain way when fired even if the player is very good at managing recoil. If gun has no recoil then flag the player for review. I'm not sure if this is even possible with the technology they have, but it would cut down on the amount of work necessary to bust cheaters using these hacks.