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pandareno1999's avatar
4 years ago

Spitfire S14

How's everyone feeling about the Spitfire this season?  I've found myself taking it a lot for either LMG damage challenges, or mostly as a placeholder for a 301. Remember when it was a placeholder for a Flatline?

I find it peculiar.  It's easy to use and does decent but not super impressive damage.  I generally do pretty well with it.  But I still can't decide if I like using it or not.  The downsides of LMGs (strafe speed, weapon swap speed) make it kinda meh.

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  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    Certain sights are universally liked on the Wingman, others have their factions.  Pretty much everyone agrees that Classic best, digi great to good, same for iron sights depending on the skin, and holo bad.  Bruiser is a divider among Wingman users, you either vibe with it or you don't. My perception is the majority don't but its enjoyers do very well with it.

  • KelRiever's avatar
    KelRiever
    4 years ago

    The light ammo Spitfire is too weak imo.  

    This is not a good LMG season.  The L-Star and Spitfire are weak (though I'd still rather have a Spitfire), the Devo is constructed (and was never awesome, but you can at least learn how to use it with a huge curve), and the best one now, the Rampage, is a drop.

    I get they wanted to nerf it but first, that was a mistake, mostly groaning from people who didn't really know how to fight it.  And second, it was too hard a nerf, both switching to light and also removing a barrel mod.  It should  be returned to heavy, because the heavy category options for rapid fire close range are the Flatline and the Prowler, rather distinctly different than the Spitfire. The Hemlock can be used close, but is better mid-longish.   Meanwhile you have the Alternator, R-99 and R-301...two of which I'd rather have than a Spitty (the Rs).  You don't need the Spitfire competing with your light mags and stock upgraders in this category.  

    The problem to me is that when Respawn makes mistakes, they either don't fix them or fix them too late.  Having seen the Spitfire enter this nerfed category, the best hope is to wait until a better LMG comes out, or the other options become finds instead of in construct or package drops.  This category was pretty much obliterated this season. 

  • Kyldenar's avatar
    Kyldenar
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    When I was playing, I found the new light ammo spitfire to be a pure middling gun.

    It's not good close quarters (better a smg, or even decent pistol), but does ok at mid range, in particular if you burst fire and don't just hold the trigger down. Just not accurate for long range, but can be an 'empty a mag that way at the other firefight just before we leave for the ring closing' kind of thing.

    The main advantage is has is ammo capacity, and that you will likely still be able to find ammo late game.

    Still 100x better than the L-Star, though.

  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
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    4 years ago

    @KelRiever wrote:

    The light ammo Spitfire is too weak imo.  


    I know exactly what you meant, but since you worded it this way, I wanted to quote this to point out for others that moving the Spitfire to light from heavy changed nothing regarding its stats.  There were also no blanket changes to LMGs, so the Spitfire's performance has only been affected this season by changes to other weapons and the weapon meta.

    I like the LStar OK.  I'm happy to take one to trade for a Volt along the line, and it feels good early game if you've got some bullets for it.  Its worst aspect for me is its painfully slow equip and, especially, unequip times.  It's very good at range with tap fire due to the bullet scaling and velocity.  You can easily put a lot of 17s into someone from a good way's away.

    EDIT:  Correction, double checked the patch notes: the recoil was nerfed a bit this season, but doesn't seem too bad to me in that respect.

  • It's not worth it in comparison to the 301, Alternator, & R99. They've nerfed it too much within the past few seasons. Honestly with how much they've nerfed the recoil, it might not be unreasonable to give it back the Barrel Stabilizer. Even then, it's better to use the 301.

  • Redmattgame's avatar
    Redmattgame
    4 years ago

    It's just another thing to add to the list of unnecessary balls-ups the devs have made to the game what with switching the ammo to light,reducing distance of bullet damage & removing the barrel stabilizer which has nerfed my beloved Spitfire to just a below sub-standard weapon now.Without the barrel stabilizer thus making the weapon recoil  pretty awful along with the shoddy hip-fire the Spitfire probably needs a Laser Sight attachment asap.The bullet damage has been reduced a fair bit that 2 Spitfire shots is pretty much the same damage as 1 melee hit.And yes whilst the weapon has a generous ammo magazine/clip that seems to be compensation for the inconsistent & low hit damage now.As others have rightly mentioned the Spitfire seems relegated to merely a weapon over short distances as overmid-range it just disappoints & misses the target a lot.

  • KelRiever's avatar
    KelRiever
    4 years ago

    @pandareno1999 @Right except it’s, you know, not heavy damage.  I mean I suppose I’m remembering the days when a Spitfire’s hits would slow your move.

    But I also guess I miss the barrel mod which allowed you to maintain accuracy. That’s just gone now.  I think barrel mods need to come back to the gun at least before I would consider taking it over an R301

  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
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    4 years ago

    @KelRiever Since day 1, no ammo type has ever had a different slowing time from any other ammo type in Apex. This myth still perpetuates somehow.

    to quote a popular Apex meme:  "Always has been."