Unbelievable how trash this game is

@BIamBoozIeThe game doesn’t aim for you. You have no grounds to say that they only won becase of aim assist, you don’t have any idea, you didn’t measure it. The mm (for control especially) is horrible, it doesn’t matter who you fight, you are bound to lose most of them, that’s just how the game works. Please come back with a more grounded argument. Also by default console players are only in lobbies with other console players, and only go into pc lobbies when we team up with a pc player. This also leads people to the misconception that all console players are better, when in reality it’s just that they’re communicating with their premade.

Edit: also the lack of minimal is purposeful, having a minimal would subtract from the mode given the fact that you would have to many people on it (also the reason they removed voice lines from pining in that mode) secondly, movement in controller is an incredibly hard skill to master and is not as easy to integrate into gameplay on controller as it is on pc. 

I do like the mirage buff tho!

Agreed, go to firing range, place your reticle 10 feet or more beside the dummy. Then aim down sight. You will see your iron sight doesn't move. It doesn't magically move towards the dummy. Now try it from half an inch away from the dummies head. You will find it still doesn't move. You all think on controller that you simply hold aim and the gun just magically goes onto the person's body. 

Give your heads a shake. Like Reconzero said - try in out first, you'll find you still get your a*s handed to you. Now go into PC lobbies and try - you'll find the same result, only your opponent will be harder to hit, as his strafe side to side and spam crouch (duck master pros) will be almost twice the speed you are able to do on your controller, never mind the broken tap strafe movement that just looks ridiculous that controller players cannot perform period. Not even the best player in the world can tap strafe on a controller (console). It is impossible. 

Trust me, I would be just as happy to have you out of my lobby as I am sure you would to have me out of yours. It boggles me why anyone on one system that can perform movements that others cannot on another system would be pitted against each other in the first place. 

There was a Dev post a ways back explaining how they determined prior to cross play, to make PC M&K equal to Controller. Why was this test needed in the first place? 

It was needed because without argument M&K out performed controller 100%. Hence after they ran thousands of simulations, they found that AA @ 0.6 equaled out M&K vs Controller. The word is equaled out, not advantage, or better or superior. 

Mouse is pin point accurate, with more speed and can rotate left and right up and down faster than controller with much much more precision. I have turned it off and it feels like linear aiming. Its a train wreck. However it does not track for you, it doesn't move on its own, it doesn't snap to target or anything even remotely close to it. 

We will never see eye to eye on this as these AA vs M&K threads are endless without ever a end in sight nor a resolution. We can only agree that we don't belong in the same lobbies.  

@NickBeam27Uff, theese attempts to defend aa are actually funny.

And btw it does aim for your, there is just the condition that you need to move 😉

and that is if we ignore the magnetic part of the aimassist wich might be even the stronger part.

just talking about 0.4 aimassist, wich is alrdy incredibly strong, can’t imagine how strong 0.6 truely is 

When I play in controller lobbies only, I am an above average player. Been playing since beta, I have over 18000 kills and 1000 wins with one legend alone. 

When I try to play with my son who plays on PC and we play duos together - I can't win any one on one battles even against low level noobs on PC. I am decimated instantly within milliseconds. 

I always feel after a session with my son, like I haven't been playing shooters for 40 years.... like all the skills I have obtained in Apex alone over the last 4 years is non-existent. 

So either I'm facing nothing but cheating PC players or my AA doesn't work. If it is as OP as you all suggest. 

My son switched to PC because his words - "I can aim twice is good, and my kills have tripled since abandoning controller." He has shown me how ridiculously precise the mouse is and how he can move from head to head with ease with pinpoint accuracy  (no scripts or cheats). My son grew up on controller and only recently switched to PC within the last year and a bit. So again, growing up on a controller like a third hand and within days using a mouse and keyboard for a short period of time and has triple his skill level. 

But yes, that controller AA is super superior to all M&K's.   

I have not played now in over a month. Game is uninstalled from my PC.

Just to check out the matchmaking everyone was complaining about, I signed in on the PS4 since that is what my kid plays on.

Not only was the matchmaking HORRID (a level 14 account, barely used, pit against 300-400's and paired with one single 500+ Gibby who tried REALLY hard to carry the game solo and came very close, heck of a thing to spectate), but,

I was expecting all this AA MAGIC that everyone here tells us is the easy win button! I EXPECTED TO BE PLAYING LIKE A PRED OR STREAMER! THIS DID NOT HAPPEN and my highest damage in 5 matches was 55! No knocks, just one assist!

This board would not lie to us about AA would it? People that are not as good as they think would not use AA as an excuse for them being not as good as they think they are, would they?