your game is stupid as hell now
Apex is * now, Too many rats ratting for LP and not playing the game, LP has to be the stupidest god damn idea, It's basically unplayable.
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- @maximas1986 Sweet is not responsible for this. People were saying this was going to happen when they announced the buy in staying the same. All they need to do to fix it is change the buy in for plat and above.
@reconzero Its dumb. Simple. What you have now is everyone camping and hugging the ring until the final circle when there are literally still 12 squads alive and it all comes down to map placement. It isn't fun at all.
- @Palette24carats
Look, I didn't personally invent the gametype. It is what it is. If you want to play it as if there is something other than winning that matters then that's fine. I'm only saying that what is prudent and most likely to yield good results may not be the most entertaining, and that I'm good with rewarding the prudent and not rewarding the imprudent. Would my ranking system be popular? Of course not. People are fundamentally impatient and will forever try to treat this game as if it is something that it isn't. But that can't change the mainspring of this game: win or don't win. There is no try. - @reconzero Where does it say that only winning matters? Nowhere. It never was. Warzone rewards kills and placement, Algs too. Apex rank did reward placement and kills from season 1.
I dont know where you got this... but battle royale was never only about wining. Never. It always was about the experience , killing a lot, fighting a lot til the end. - @Palette24carats
"I dont know where you got this... but battle royale was never only about wining."
I don't know where you ever got the idea that it was about anything else. Oh, wait. From pointless ranking systems which are designed to help people who lose still feel as if they accomplished something so that they'll keep playing the game. - @reconzero My only problem with that is that I believe Rank should measure not just team skill but individual skill. The best players are both great individually and as part of a team.
- @reconzero You missed the Algs part. In fact everywhere in the world being no 2 or 3 , kills was rewarded from the start of battle royale and in every battle royale.
Kills were calculated from day 1... it always mattered... in every BR in every part of the world.
You invented that vision or you gobbled it from someone else. It is just false. You are correct that the goal is to win, but you are misinformed about "how BR was meant to be played". The survival aspect means fighting and not getting killed. If you are not going to participate (aka camp) so you don't fight your way to the win then it defeats the purpose of playing the game. It's disingenuous and makes sense that people who aren't good with gunplay would promote it, copium really. Battle Royale means to fight your way to the top. Fight is the key word here, not hide. If it were up to me I'd put a penalty on players or even disqualify them for not taking part or at least meeting a minimum damage number, whether they "won" or not.
Definition of BR:
Concept of BR derived from Wikipedia:
"...the goal is to be the last player or team standing by eliminating all other opponents"
The whole concept revolves around eliminating opponents, not just waiting it out and fighting or 3rd partying the last player. Sure, you could catfish your way to a win, but does that win actually mean anything? Were you the best team on the map and showed it through actually playing and coming out on top? In short, no. Opportunistic perhaps, or even cowardly? but not skilled. In no version of the multiverse would I or anyone I've ever met reward such players.
@Palette24carats I'm with you on this one. Ain't no way camping is the way. If they increased the number of teams or made the maps smaller so these players are forced to fight more these arguments would stop dead in their tracks. This is a fps game after all, what's the point if your not gonna fight?
- @blackeyeriver Exactly, fight your way to the top.
Actually they could reinvent the style and create mini bubbles all around the map so that the winners of those bubbles get together to fight again in bubbles that ultimately get to only 1 bubble. Would be nice to have a mode like that limits the 3rd party and forces a sort of tournament in the game. - @HappyHourSumwur
Nobody is more disappointed than I am that Respawn envisions Apex as team-only, but for now at least that's the way the game is.
@Palette24carats
I did not miss the ALGS part. I'm perfectly aware of how the ranking system works and why it works that way. And like I said, it works that way so the dev can throw crumbs to losers and make them feel like they accomplish something when they fail to win. How ranking systems work is irrelevant to anyone but a rank chaser. The object of the game is still to win.
@blackeyeriver
" If you are not going to participate (aka camp) so you don't fight your way to the win then it defeats the purpose of playing the game."
The single most mistaken argument made about battle royale. No one is proposing "winning without fighting." If someone, anyone, developer included, suggests that a smarter player should pick and choose their fights, or that the fewer you take the higher your odds of winning, then suddenly every rank chaser on the planet with 2% win rate comes out of the woodwork claiming that if you can't beat the #19 squad then you certainly won't be able to beat the #2 squad. Which is exactly like saying that a ton of bricks weighs more than a ton of feathers.
"Were you the best team on the map and showed it through actually playing and coming out on top? In short, no. Opportunistic perhaps, or even cowardly? but not skilled."
Keep rationalizing losses any way you want.
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I get how uncomfortable everyone is with the idea that winning is rare in battle royale and therefore the game has to reward players for something besides just winning. And it does. I personally don't think it needs to, but you can all take comfort in the fact that I'm not in charge of anything around here.
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