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@CroL0co wrote:
@7empePL wrote:
@ON1MUSH4Yeah, I have the same observations. It seems that Reflex has introduce heavy stutter. I also rolled back to 452.06 and I use Low Latency Mode set to "ultra". However, if you use "ultra", you should not use +fps_max 141, because ultra low letency mode has embedded 138 fps cap for 144 Hz monitors. Use "+fps_max unlimited" to avoid triggering two overlapping FPS limiters (in-game's and nvidia's).I can also confirm this, tried both 456.71 and 456.55 and I had stutters even though the FPS was great. After reverting the drivers to 452.06 the problem was fixed so I also suppose the problem is with Reflex implementation.
Are you sure that ultra low latency is capping the FPS? If that's the case I don't need to use the driver max framerate cap, gonna try it out.
Did anybody test this with drivers newer then 456.71, is the stutter with nvidia reflex still there?
I'm going to try the newest one (460.89), I'll report you later bro 🙂
UPDATE: No way, stuttering still persist... If you take a loot at official nvidia web page there is a note about nvidia reflex (NOTE: Due to a bug, NVIDIA Reflex can not be disabled at this time. We will remove this note once the bug has been resolved.) You can search by yourself on google (first result): apex legends nvidia reflex
My opinion is: The Apex Legends game engine is not optimized well and it cause frametime spikes (commonly called stuttering), nvidia reflex provide to you the frames instantly, so you can notice the frametime spikes, if you use gsync + vsync is more noticeable than fixed refresh + no vsync.
I think we should wait a fix from Respawn Entertainment, I hope they let you decide if keep nvidia Reflex ON or switch it to OFF into main settings!
Also Nvidia could fix it by letting you disable Reflex by his control panel !!
- CroL0co5 years agoNew Veteran
@ON1MUSH4 wrote:I'm going to try the newest one (460.89), I'll report you later bro 🙂
UPDATE: No way, stuttering still persist... If you take a loot at official nvidia web page there is a note about nvidia reflex (NOTE: Due to a bug, NVIDIA Reflex can not be disabled at this time. We will remove this note once the bug has been resolved.) You can search by yourself on google (first result): apex legends nvidia reflex
My opinion is: The Apex Legends game engine is not optimized well and it cause frametime spikes (commonly called stuttering), nvidia reflex provide to you the frames instantly, so you can notice the frametime spikes, if you use gsync + vsync is more noticeable than fixed refresh + no vsync.
I think we should wait a fix from Respawn Entertainment, I hope they let you decide if keep nvidia Reflex ON or switch it to OFF into main settings!
Also Nvidia could fix it by letting you disable Reflex by his control panel !!Thx for the explanation bro! So basically if somebody owns an rtx 3000 card he is forced to play with stutter because even the oldest 3000 driver has reflex... This is just unacceptable.
- 5 years ago
that's right...sadly...
until nvidia releases a way to force it off by control panel, or Respawn adds an option in game. - 5 years ago
I have an RTX 3070 And Went through this same stutter issues My forum post is here. https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Visual-Glitches-and-Stuttering-in-game/m-p/9870492#M92515
I recommend using a DDU to do a clean install of the newest nvidia drivers.
"Lets try a config change:
- navigate to C:\Users\*username*\Saved Games\Respawn\Apex\local
- copy the videoconfig.txt to your desktop (so that you have backed up your settings and can restore them later if necessary)
- open the videoconfig.txt in C:\Users\*username*\Saved Games\Respawn\Apex\local
- delete all
- now copy and past this:
"VideoConfig"{"setting.cl_gib_allow" "0""setting.cl_particle_fallback_base" "-999999""setting.cl_particle_fallback_multiplier" "-999999""setting.cl_ragdoll_maxcount" "0""setting.cl_ragdoll_self_collision" "0""setting.mat_forceaniso" "0""setting.mat_mip_linear" "0""setting.stream_memory" "0""setting.mat_picmip" "4""setting.particle_cpu_level" "0""setting.r_createmodeldecals" "0""setting.r_decals" "0""setting.r_lod_switch_scale" "0.35""setting.shadow_enable" "0""setting.shadow_depth_dimen_min" "0""setting.shadow_depth_upres_factor_max" "0""setting.shadow_maxdynamic" "0""setting.ssao_enabled" "0""setting.ssao_downsample" "3""setting.dvs_enable" "0""setting.dvs_gpuframetime_min" "4167""setting.dvs_gpuframetime_max" "4084""setting.defaultres" "1920""setting.defaultresheight" "1080""setting.fullscreen" "1""setting.nowindowborder" "0""setting.volumetric_lighting" "0""setting.mat_vsync_mode" "0""setting.mat_backbuffer_count" "0""setting.mat_antialias_mode" "12""setting.csm_enabled" "0""setting.csm_coverage" "0""setting.csm_cascade_res" "512""setting.fadeDistScale" "1.000000""setting.dvs_supersample_enable" "0""setting.gamma" "1.000000""setting.configversion" "7""setting.modeldecals_forceAllowed" "-1"}- save the videoconfig.txt
- right click on it, read only
Play apex, and tell me if it's better." -sick1click
Sick1click found this solution for me. Apex no longer stuttered for me after this. Although the video quality was poor. I found In game I could turn the texture stream budgeting to medium and texture filtering to 2x. and I wouldn't stutter and the game graphics looked better but i wouldn't do that until you try it on those settings.
- 5 years ago"VideoConfig"{"setting.cl_gib_allow" "0""setting.cl_particle_fallback_base" "-999999""setting.cl_particle_fallback_multiplier" "-999999""setting.cl_ragdoll_maxcount" "0""setting.cl_ragdoll_self_collision" "0""setting.mat_forceaniso" "0""setting.mat_mip_linear" "0""setting.stream_memory" "0""setting.mat_picmip" "4""setting.particle_cpu_level" "0""setting.r_createmodeldecals" "0""setting.r_decals" "0""setting.r_lod_switch_scale" "0.35""setting.shadow_enable" "0""setting.shadow_depth_dimen_min" "0""setting.shadow_depth_upres_factor_max" "0""setting.shadow_maxdynamic" "0""setting.ssao_enabled" "0""setting.ssao_downsample" "3""setting.dvs_enable" "0""setting.dvs_gpuframetime_min" "4167""setting.dvs_gpuframetime_max" "4084""setting.defaultres" "1920""setting.defaultresheight" "1080""setting.fullscreen" "1""setting.nowindowborder" "0""setting.volumetric_lighting" "0""setting.mat_vsync_mode" "0""setting.mat_backbuffer_count" "0""setting.mat_antialias_mode" "12""setting.csm_enabled" "0""setting.csm_coverage" "0""setting.csm_cascade_res" "512""setting.fadeDistScale" "1.000000""setting.dvs_supersample_enable" "0""setting.gamma" "1.000000""setting.configversion" "7""setting.modeldecals_forceAllowed" "-1"}
- 5 years ago
Reflex could be the issue.
- 5 years ago
Reflex is 100% the issue for me. I turned it off and it is smooth af. I have a 240 hz so I'm running into a separate issue now with stuttering when going above and below 180'ish fps.
- 5 years ago@CARLS_CAR_LOL How did you turn it off? as far as I know there is still an NVIDIA bug that prevents you from disabling it even when you do the command.
- 5 years ago
I turned that off and I still get the random micro stutter once/twice a game.Sometimes I get nothing in a game. Makes no sense as I could be in a heavy fire fight and 0 hitches then I could be randomly running around and it happens.
Got a picture of it on a frametimegraph up too with latencymon just as an added measure.
- 5 years ago
I have the same issue, random stutters few times in a game, did you find a fix ? The first graph are my fps and the second are the frametimes. It's over a full game perriod. (2080/8700k)
- 4 years ago
Jesus christ.Not just the big spikes but the frametime on the lower end too.Your game must not look as smooth as it can be when looking around with the camera with such erratic frametime.
I'm such a spaz I would even notice the smaller spikes too.
It's partly because of Nvidia and their garbage feature called "reflex" which was introduced on drivers over 452.06
Been an issue for ages.
If you're capable of going to a driver below 452.06 you will notice a frametime improvement and smoother camera pan.I'm on a 3080 so I can't do that.
- 4 years ago
i put link about my stuttering issue in game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPsrVVKUoe4
- 4 years ago
Hello everybody,
after trying so many things I finally found the solution to fix my stuttering problems. After I deactivated IPv6 I had no more problems.
1. Close Apex.
2. Go to control panel -> Network Settings -> Adapter Configuration. I'm german so I'm not sure if the translation is right. This is the path in german:
Systemsteuerung\Netzwerk und Internet\Netzwerkverbindungen
3. Rightclick on the Adapter of your Internet Connection (mine is called "Ethernet") and deactivate "Internet Protocol, Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)".
Snapshot in attachements
I hope that helps most of you. Please let me know if it helped you :-)
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