Aim assist vs MKB new update

For me, the game is unplayable atm. Controller players dominate in numbers every lobby. 90% of the gun fights face to face, are a loss against them.  They just run Rambo mode, with an LMG hipfiring and wiping everyone exploiting the increased damage for hipfire and the aim assist. I cant win any fight in close range in Redsec against controller players.

I have to strongly disagree with calls to further weaken controller aim assist. The argument that controllers are "easier" misses the bigger picture: mouse and keyboard will always have a significant advantage in raw input precision, turn speed, and keybinding flexibility.
If certain weapons feel overpowered in crossplay, the issue isn’t the input device—it’s the weapons themselves. Guns like the DRS and SCW-10 have extremely low recoil and laser-like accuracy, making them dominant at too many engagement ranges. Instead of harming the gameplay experience for millions of console players by tampering with aim assist, the focus should be on rebalancing these specific weapons.
Nerfing a control method that helps level the playing field for controller users will only frustrate the core console community. If mouse and keyboard players feel recoil control is too easy on controller, why not advocate for improving recoil smoothing or control options on MNK instead? “Buffing” the experience for one group is always better than “nerfing” it for another.
Let’s keep the discussion focused on real balance issues—overperforming guns—not undermining the way most console players experience the game.

hankewyane​ if you believe for a minute that m&k and controller belong together in any shooter, you are clearly crazy and you should avoid reproduction, clearly you are clueless to both sides, you haven't tested both ways like OP did, you are here just to spam for no reason other than to grief.

Console players vs console players. Problem solved.

As a controller player I have to agree. I come from playing other shooters like Fortnite where aim assist isn’t as strong and dominating the crossplay game. The aim assist reducing recoil on controller is broken and takes out the skill  of learning recoil control and tap firing your gun. 

What I am concerned about is... If we just nerf the guns, the console players will still have snapping to targets and 1.5x better recoil. Majority of MKB players are casuals same for consoles, so if casual vs casual goes against eachother the controller would most likely win in this situation based on the aim assist and better recoil. There is no casual that reacts to someone shooting from behind before its too late anyway. The easy movement with mouse doesnt benefits casual players as snapping to target and lower recoil does with controller.

If you look at BO6 for example. Extreme majority of player played with controller, also former MKB players like myself changed input device. You dont have to put the same effort as MKB player does to achieve the same level of aim as a console player/controller even in the pro scene. You're much more relaxed and can play for longer hours than with MKB, because you dont need to throw your arms around like a maniac, you dont need to memorize the movement of enemy player (strafing) etc. Especially with games like cod that are fast paced and domination/king of the hill mode in BF6. I had a headache after 3 games in bo6, when I swapped to controller I played 10+ games before I needed to take a break.

Now I am refering to a different type of game and I dont have facts about majority of player playing with controller on pc except that everygame I played they had the controller icon, even on pc. Which indicates that they use controller on pc or a console which have 2 different icons. When I achieved highest diamond rank to advance into crimson, there was only players on controller both pc and console.

Now after all my crappy talk. Sorry about the length, but the only way to actually do something with MKB is to do the same thing they did on halo infinite. Which gave MKB aim assist aswell. That is not the way to play FPS games in my humble opinion and probably most people (speculation). Also should we go for AI assistance in FPS games? Should we remove all form of skill in competetive games? It should be fair for both sides, right now console players have it extremely easy because of the low recoil weapons and nerfing all weapons will hurt MKB the most. It is already hard to control the aim with the bloom added feature while moving, I am a strafe shooter so that is a pain with a weapon with 30 precision (with attachments aswell). I have to stand completely still to have the same accuarcy as the person with a controller do that can walk and shoot.  Because of the low recoil they can modify the weapon with different attachment that benefits both vertical/horizontal or bloom etc.

Edit: Also, BF6 is an objective focused game. Only time you actually run and have to check your back is from point a to point b. Then you sit there with healing bags, grenade dispenser, shields, mines, claymore etc. I do agree that PC have better keybinds modification than controllers, but they also can buy an elite series controller or ps5 dualsense edge with extra buttons.

I wish they would fix the connection issue with console and PC. We have a delay between the two.

So, when I play M&K on xbox, how does that solve the problem for me? And when your oponent on PC plays with a controller, what problem was solved for you?

Thinking the platform determines the input is old-pc-gamer brainrot.

Most LMGs have massive and immediate dropoff making them hilariously bad hip fire weapons. The M60 and DRS are different...but even the KTS just had insane dropoff damage.

Do you mean SMGs, not LMGs?

The bigger issue is the crossplay netcode is a tire fire. Mass packet losses randomly, horrible weird hitreg issues, etc - and for some reason it seems that when there's a desynch problem it's always benefiting the console player, you're never the dude with super speed and whatnot...it's always that guy on an xbox with shoddy wifi getting the advantage when their internet derps out.

That said 50% reduction to recoil is a massive, massive and frankly unfair buff to controller input. I get controller is a lot harder but this is getting into Hello Kitty's 1st Point n' Click Adventure territory. It needs to be dialed back a significant amount. Maybe not eliminated...but definitely needs to be dialed down.