Traditionally Battlefield has always been about classes, and with that came class locked weapons. This how it was and how it should be!One of the big mistakes they made with BF2042 was to first introduce specialists, and next they gave these specialists access to ALL weapons. Later on they partially fixed the issue by implementing back the class system, however weapons remained open. With the open beta we have a chance to make our voices being heard! As I'm sure they will be monitoring traffic towards what people want to play, let's make our actions speak louder than our words by all ignoring the Conquest mode and pick Closed Weapon Conquest instead.And from there I hope the message will be clear to the developers that we need closed weapons in ALL game modes!

"We hear you loud and clear! You wanted classes back so here is our new game with classes.""Oh yeah, you can use any weapon type you want, because we really didn't want to bring classes back. But if you really want to actually play classes like they are supposed to and restrict weapon types to classes, you will have to jump through 3 hoops, sing the national anthem, while standing on you right leg with your left finger in your right nostril".

Closed classes keep Battlefield 6 from turning into Call of DutyIn Battlefield, closed classes force players to commit to a role—Assault, Engineer, Support, Recon—so each squad needs teamwork to succeed. Without this, you end up with “super soldiers” swapping weapons mid-fight to counter every situation, which breaks balance and realism. Closed classes mean you can’t just instantly switch from sniper to rocket launcher to SMG in the same life. You have to rely on teammates, work with your loadout, and play your role—exactly what sets Battlefield apart from COD’s run-and-gun, every-man-for-himself style.

I played it yesterday and I didn't even know I had the option to change to Conquest locked weapons. But it's really annoying that the classes aren't locked.

RaginSam wrote:Who cares that a sniper can resupply themselves?I do.It diminishes the teamplay aspect of the game, and makes it so a person can sit in one spot and just hold it down indefinitely.It also makes it so engineers can sit back and snipe while keeping vehicles up on larger maps, straining vehicle play even more.It makes recons unbalanced, they can take the best AR or SMG and sit with a TUGS just controlling parts of the map instead of being limited by their weapon choice.Carbines and DMRs are powerful enough for an "open weapon" category while still having some drawbacks. Why even bother having classes if we are just going to allow all weapons? Let's just make a hero shooter like 2042 again. It's like we learned nothing from that mess.Furthermore, it keeps the game from becoming CoD. Having locked weapons allows the player to make decisions based on the class they are going up against. I don't have to sit there and be like oh is that engineer going to snipe me? Or is that guy going to have an AR and mow me down outside of my effective range with my SMG". It's a similar idea to the character silhouette's in Overwatch. I know when I see a Reaper I can be like "oh okay shotguns better keep my distance." It helps make gameplay flow better and having drawbacks makes the classes feel more unique.RaginSam wrote:A lot of issues are going to arise more so from the maps being too small and with players being able to spawn in big groups too quickly. I think that's what needs the most attention honestly. The map sizes are not the issue Siege of Cairo and Iberian Offensive are about the same size as Seine Crossing which is a beloved BF3 map. They play just fine and they play better when you don't have an engineer sitting back with a sniper who can just pick off your guys from their side of the map while keeping a tank alive who is doing the same.

I don't disagree with you, but people who want the closed weapon system know the benefits so will want to test the open weapons system to see what it is like.I think at best we will see a 50/50 split, but I imagine more will use the 'normal' servers because they don't particularly care and want to experience/test the game 'as intended'.Either way, EA/DICE will spin the results and won't listen if they don't want to.They won't change anything major at this point if they don't want to, especially something that might effect their bottom line - in this case, skins sales (someone who usually plays a sniper can now use any weapon = might now buy any skins).It's like them saying that having a server browser in Portal meets the demands of those asking for a server browser when it clearly does not.People who want the facility of a server browser (and want to play together with more than 3 others...) will try Portal, though, so EA will say "There! People that wanted a browser used Portal! We were right!".Or if very few use Portal browser EA will say "There! People didn't use Portal browser! We were right to not bother with one in the main game!".Sure, I'm critical of EA/DICE, but, you know: BF5 and BF2042...

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VonZuli
Seasoned Rookie
11 days ago
TheCovenant98 wrote:
Dude seriously?

You can't see that the Assaults class has more to offer then the 3 things i said in my comment?

So the Assault class has no signature gadget? no field spec? no signature trait?
Oh I absolutely can see that, and I use that kit to it's full potential.
Your previous comment stated only what you liked about it. So tell me, is it me who doesn't understand the value of the kit they have or you? Since there are only 3 things you like about that class.

You can't even offer us a SINGLE reason why open weapons are better.
Either you do actually think your opinion is so infallible that you cannot even bother to explain it or you don't understand how. It's either arrogance or ignorance at this point until you explain your stance.
TheCovenant98 wrote:
Im out, im sorry...
So when presented with a well constructed opinion counter to your own, instead of defending your stance you decide to run away? Guess you didn't want to discuss the topic after all.
OB_BakedBacon
New Rookie
6 days ago
Pelase EA pick one!! I hope you pick Closed weapons for best class identity, but I don't like that you are giving us both options, this will just split the community into 2 camps!!
Pick one, and stick to it!!
GrizzGolf
Seasoned Ace
6 days ago
I had more fun in locked.

I honestly think we are going to have open and locked.
ElliotLH
Hero+
6 days ago
Yep, we are indeed getting both to some degree. It's mentioned in the "Playlist Options" section of the beta debrief.

It'll be interesting to see how they do it. I can't see them giving both options for every single playlist mode myself, as then there'd be duplicate tiles for everything mode, but I could see them applying it to specific staple ones.

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CosmicTimeKeeper
Seasoned Rookie
6 days ago
I vote for open weapon selection. You should not be limited in being able to use the right tool in different game scenarios with the character chosen to play.
ghostflux
Rising Traveler
6 days ago
I've tried both playlists extensively in the beta. I did expect to notice some significant difference, but that just wasn't the case. I'd still pick the class that's supposed to hold the weapon, to make use of the class bonuses.
RanzigeRidder2
Legend
6 days ago
Yep, in the Beta it was only Conquest that got both. So I also don't see them applying it for all modes other than that and perhaps Breakthrough. It would hugely divide the playerbase.
ElliotLH
Hero+
6 days ago
Yes, I agree. That'd probably be an even bigger problem in regions with a lower player count.

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