Weapon bloom (spread) is fine.

I agree!

I'm sorry you are just wrong. The bloom effect is almost immediate making head shots just a rng pokies game. A dot sight is saying I am aligned with the barrel and this is where the bullet will travel. It is for precision but if the bullet just does whatever it likes within a cone then it is a very misleading and unrewarding visual cue that is now just punishing good recoil control. OTH cone dispersion makes sense but ADS does not. Recoil pattens and scope bounce for movement and player control are some of the major factors that should affect accuracy but never ADS dispersion on a dot saying this is where the bullet will go and then breaking off. Also BFV and 2042 both had this same issue. BFV resolved it and had the best gunplay of all BF titles and also 2042 reduced bloom so you are both objectively and historically wrong

I can agree that the visuals can be misleading but we do in fact have tracers etc. I usually play Support with LMG. It would be insanely hard to aim or even look at the screen if the recoil would follow the bloom. I think its a compromise to not make shooting super shaky

your take is terrible and we have many years worth of forums for battlefield to prove it. Bloom is way too overtuned. every single battlefield inwhich its been too strong we have complained to no end until they nerfed it. as i said in another post. Bloom is not the only thing that affacts your bullet trajectory. Suppression is still in the game and also affects your accuracy and stacks on top of bloom to make your bullets wildly inaccurate. rng bullets trajectory kind of defeats the purpose of aiming. everyone knows about tap firing thats not some new thing weve been using it in battlfield for ages. tap firing is for longer range engagments in close quarters fights that is not the place for tap firing thats full auto all day. That is where bloom is causing most of the frustration. it shouldnt even be active in close range battles withing 30-40 meters bloom should barely be in effect. past that point it should start and the further out from there it should get worse. these are modern weapons they arent in accurate old time weapons. they should feel modern and accurate within reason. right now that dont feel that accurate. Also want to point out that there are quite a few higher tier guns that are still lasers and are currently outclassing in all ranges. the more people that get access to them the mosre thats going to become apparent.

Its ok if they keep the bloom but when it kicks in after the 2nd shot, that is not even funny, I have tried burst firing and its still too much, its literally RNG, I am far more successful just spraying the **bleep** out of someone at medium range than burst firing at the enemy, with the short to medium range you are likely to loose a fight burst firing someone and thats a fact, for it to actually work you gotta get the jump on the guy and hope he isnt in cover by the 2nd burst, again if they want to keep bloom, that thing needs to be nerfed hard as in reduce the cone drastically by 75% or more when ADS. On top of that, I did a few test in the community servers and the weapon damage does not match what it says.

ADS bullet spread is NOT fine.

Battlefield is suppose to be known for large maps. Why even have large maps if you cant even land 5 accurate shots in the time before an enemy reaches cover?

Players will most often avoid long distance engagements as its usually a waste of time and will give away your position trying to fight RNG bullet spread.

The terrible bullet spread combined with damage fall off makes it a chore to shoot players 5 times at a distance.

The ADS bullet spread...

• Makes players not trust their weapon sights
• Funnels players into close quarters combat where they CAN get away with spraying
• Is inconsistent across different weapons even in the same class (starter assault rifle is bad, some arent)
• Introduces weapon "metas" which in itself is NOT good gameplay
• Still promotes volume of fire/spraying rather than bursting. If you stop to burst, the player spraying will get lucky and hit you due to sheer bullet volume.

The game would be much more enjoyable if players actually saw why shots were going off-target with visual random recoil.

It wouldnt change your gameplay. It would still essentially be the same recoil patterns. Youd still have "just bUrsT bRo" as your go to answer.

Then all that would be left for EA to do is to properly balance weapon classes.

SMGs have less bullet spread, and do 25 damage, like assault rifles. That alone is a problem.

I disliked the bullet spread in the beta.

Now i wish wed at least tone it back to those levels. 

Patch 1.0.1.0 is WHACK.

Many talented FPS players agree.

When bullets don't go where you are aiming, the game feels unresponsive. There are other ways to discourage full auto at range, making bullets go sideways out the barrel isn't a good one. I'd much rather they increase recoil across the board to encourage tapping instead. At least that way you'd have something visible and intuitive.

Yes but all the tracers are doing is showing you how bad the randomised bloom is, they can do nothing to help correct accuracy because if a tracer when left/up diagonal there is zero guarantee if I aim correct right/down diagonal I will hit target because rng might choose hard right for next dispersion. The ways to properly handle precision aim are:

1. Vertical and horizontal recoil  strength ( fixed or randomised patterns) e.g gun pulls up hard first half of mag pulling left and then vert evens out second half while pulling right
2. Vertical and horizontal recoil bounce (the distance the dot moves between each bullet) 
3. First shot recoil (making it easier/harder to hit follow up shot) 
4. Recoil kick reset (does the recoil kick reset all the way to original position, half way, quarter way etc) 
5. Visual recoil
6. Rate of fire
7. Bullet velocity 
8. Bullet damage drop off 
9. Magazine size

All of these give a fair feel to the gunfight as the bullet still goes where the dot shows. For example, a gun may be quite low vert recoil so is quite easy to control climb but high hori recoil bounce, high first shot recoil kick, high rof, fast damage drop, slow velocity, short mag. As you can see this gun is suited well for short range but will struggle at distance and moving targets and will need regular reloads. All of this was achieved with NO RNG making it purely luck based. 

As a follow up just as players will gravitate towards lower recoil guns so will players with the BF6 the precision gauge (essentially guns with less bloom) and attachments that reduce bloom (increasing precision) . I already use it as my primary choice for a gun in BF6 because why choose a gun that is guaranteed to miss where I aim?? Where something like high recoil can be offset by say something like high bullet damage to influence choice, it can never do that with bloom because you are still guaranteed to RNG miss the target regardless. 

You made them go to cover giving you a chance to move up.

Think outside of just pew pew.

Some of the extreme cases happening on the first few shots have been acknowledged by dice and that should be ironed out I agree.

But the mechanic itself is part of battlefields dna.