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Rebelscum8812's avatar
Rebelscum8812
New Scout
8 days ago

Bot/AI bans or suspensions with ought any human oversight is wrong

I am posting this to warn other players and potentially drive change for the better. Today I was flagged for coin distribution. My market access was removed and more than 3,000,000 coins were wiped. Those coins took months to earn. I did not buy or sell coins and I did not use any off platform transfers. I buy low and sell high inside the market.

 

The problem is the process. An automated system makes these calls with no human review. Player visible sales history is not available this year, so I cannot even show my own log. There is a time sensitive Locker promo running, so every day I am locked out is another loss. This is extremely frustrating when we pay to play the game, and even if they accept my appeal which 100% should happen they refuse to compensate for the coins, players, promos, etc..  that I'll miss in the meantime. Then I get this spill about what I did, and the ethics of it even though I 1000% didn't do what this bot claims is infuriating. I agree with the message, but EA should do a better job of sending it to people that are actually doing these things. EAs policies that let bots auto ban people are horrible and damaging. I shouldn't be punished for being good at flipping cards on the AH, and neither should anyone else. It also will devalue my teams worth drastically even if reversed. All my players get cheaper every time a new promo is released and they never compensate for that part. You shouldn't give such power to robots when it effects us so greatly. Sure, get them to flag accounts, but a human needs to review such large decisions. 

 

What I am asking EA to do

1. require a human to review every case before any ban or coin removal, as even when it's reversed via appeal it makes us lose out on tons of coins, promos, limited time cards, and much more. 

2. restore access and return coins and items when no proof is provided for said violations. Provide evidence so players can properly dispute the bots claims. 

3. give players a way to request their own sales logs. We had our past sales visible in CFB 25, and I wish they'd bring it back. It was helpful for flipping cards and knowing what sold. It would also help prove our sales were within terms of service. Now, we have no way to show our history. 

4. Give players a chance to provide proof of their actions. It's not fair for us to not have a chance to at least answer a few questions or something. This would eliminate nearly all false bans, however it would also require an actual employee to correspond with us instead of an auto ban capable bot. Customer relations used to be a thing that mattered more. 

 

If this has happened to you, reply with your date and outcome. Keep it civil and please upvote so a community manager sees it. This really needs to be addressed as we move further into an AI controlled environment. Ai would be great for them to flag accounts, but a human needs to provide at least final approval before severly restricting their player base. Keeping us from the things we spent time and real world money on should not be a robots total decision. 

10 Replies

  • HellNah's avatar
    HellNah
    Seasoned Newcomer
    8 days ago

    Literally the same **bleep** happened to me today and I only had 135k atm I so **bleep**ing confused it doesn’t even make since if I was buying/ distributing coins don’t they think I would have more that sub 130k and also I’m only a 86overall 85O 87D and I open over 700$ worth of packs I feel rob and I’m going to take legal action if this isn’t resolved soon cause I’m innocent I’ve completed every solo both tower of valors and over 23 days played so far so my time and completed challenges show literally **bleep** near all my cards are BND so idk where they got the inkling of me coin distributing and I can’t get in touch with live chat need help on how to make an appeal ASAP cause this is so wrong cause if I was buying coins or distributing them I would **bleep** sure have every ltd that touched the auction house 

    This is the team they said I’ve been distributing for lol **bleep** is lowkey mid 😂 but I guess wtf is EA either open my auction house back or give me a full refund for packs opened cause yall don’t let me pull **bleep** no way clearly 

  • Rebelscum8812's avatar
    Rebelscum8812
    New Scout
    7 days ago

    You can file for an appeal on this website. It is under the top menu, and then open my cases in the bottom left. On that page you can select appeal as the reason and tell them what happened. From what I've seen from other users, they are very unlikely to overturn the ruling. That woukd require an actual human representative to look over your account, which is what I'm hoping for. I'd like to think that if an actual human looks at my account it will be obvious that the bot banned me for no reason. I was flipping cards on the auction house, buying low and selling high. I was also using remote play at my father's house about an hour after I got off of my PlayStation to relist the players that didn't sell. It should be able to see where I was buying strategy items and things of that nature to help my team the whole time while I was doing the card flipping. Either way I'm hoping that they will get rid of the bots ability to ban you without direct oversight from a human. It's much too large of a decision for a robot to be able to automatically control, especially since we use real money in this game and spend a lot of time working on our teams. Hopefully it works out for the both of us. I'll keep you posted whenever they answer my appeal. One of the biggest things I hate that is even if they overturn the band you still miss out on tons of coins, promos, lockers. Our teams are also being severely devalued, because anybody that was worth anything loses a considerable amount of value every time they drop new cards that we can't participate in buying and selling. They never compensate for any of those other things like that, and I feel that that is also wrong. Once they find out that they banned someone without cause they should definitely have some kind of a make good for that player. This is the only game mode I play, and the only reason that I bought this game, and it is very frustrating. Hang in there and hopefully the appeal process works as it should, but I wouldn't get your hopes up from whatever I've read on other forums unfortunately.

  • Vanzuuk's avatar
    Vanzuuk
    Seasoned Newcomer
    4 days ago

    Have you gotten a reply yet? This just happened to me last night and i’ve submitted a couple appeals i believe but i haven’t gotten any emails saying my appeal has been submitted or anything. Definitely very frustrating to those who grind the game and spend money on currency. 

  • vellus22's avatar
    vellus22
    Seasoned Newcomer
    4 days ago

    Same thing happened to me last week on Thursday. My appeal case has been transferred for what I see now 8 times since then and no response. It's flat out annoyingly that some computer bot flags your account when there are literally youtubers promoting coin selling sites and you see no recourse. 

    I haven't bought or sold coins and don't even put money into the game because that would add an extra layer of frustration. 

    Whatever the process is, has to be better. Never have been flagged and it should not result in a "permanent ban" if you aren't going to properly investigate.  This is by far the opposite and the approach here seems to be guilty until proven innocent. 

    Bad look overall for a loved mode that I have played since Madden 11. 

    I play across all games from fifa to madden to CFB and never have had issues till a mass bot sweeps accounts for a terrible accusation 

  • Geno52's avatar
    Geno52
    Seasoned Newcomer
    4 days ago

    **bleep** I was flagged for coin distribution Sunday. EA needs to get this resolved.  I got those **bleep** alumni platinum bundles. sold the plat cards and the sellable cards in auction house  these bundles netted 6 mil. And to believe I gave  these EA mfrs money to get banned. 

    Now in the community I'm labeled a fn cheater.  I have tried like heck for resolution with customer service.. That is the biggest circle **bleep** I have witnessed. I think I'm on the 5th you filed the wrong claim go here 💩..

  • Rebelscum8812's avatar
    Rebelscum8812
    New Scout
    4 days ago

    Crickets so far. I can see that it has been transferred to their terms of service team, and if they check my logs it should be obvious to see what happened with my explanation. My account never showed any penalties but I opened a case. I'm assuming remote play as well as making a lot of coins on the auction house is what the bot assumes is coin selling. I'll update here when it actually gets reviewed. 

  • Rebelscum8812's avatar
    Rebelscum8812
    New Scout
    4 days ago

    Same here brother! It's unfortunate. You'd think with the amount of time, effort, and money we put into this game they'd require a human oversight before a restriction is issued. Even if you don't buy packs you still spend money to buy the game, and it sounds like you're in the same boat as me, ultimate team is the only reason I bought the game. I'll update whenever I get an answer. Let me know what happens in your case. Like you said, the time keeps getting updated on the transfer but that's all I can see. 

  • Rebelscum8812's avatar
    Rebelscum8812
    New Scout
    4 days ago

    Unfortunate! I'm in the same discord with ya, so you know my story. Same username there. Keep me posted, and I'll do the same. 

  • Geno52's avatar
    Geno52
    Seasoned Newcomer
    4 days ago

    my ticket says FIXED whatever that means. still no access to AH and coin gone. it's interesting they will still want me buy from there store.  yeah EA I ain't that stupid. 

  • vellus22's avatar
    vellus22
    Seasoned Newcomer
    3 days ago

    I be interested to hear if your AH access is restored in the next 24 hours if they claimed "fixed"

    I still don't understand the sweeping bans and to make them permanent is just insane for something none of us are doing. 

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