Re: calling @proxos666 to help with game performance

Here's my Dxdiag, and that redist is broken, I've used it in prior machines but since Win10 has been out that link doesn't work.

http://hastebin.com/nagadefudi.tex

I also FYI cannot use anything related to Windows Update due to a driver * that disables my wireless and ethernet cards and prevents me from installing drivers, so I can't do anything in the way of updating windows. Regular driver updates are fine though.

@RydarusVeneris

That link works for me it just downloaded the redist exe file

Try this link

Maybe an australia thing? That last one you gave me worked, dling.

Downloaded, will see if it improves. I've been looking for a DL of that for ages though, all the links I found weren't available.

I'll do a WZ and see how it shakes out. So far in most fights (before installation) on any settings it'll AVG about 15-20 FPS.

Also on the nonstream client btw.

@RydarusVeneris

I can see windows update failure listed , have you manually disabled updates ? 

if not and updates is broken,  open a command prompt as administrator and type

sfc /scannow  

See if this corrects the ability to install windows updates.

You can selectively stop a particular driver update per this link for example

I've set my connection as metered to block updates. I'll try to work around it at some point but frankly too lazy, also due to the issues TOR has with newer versions of Windows 10 (Display driver resetting and random loading screens) I'd frankly just rather not mess with it.

is SWTORUnleashed still a thing?

Also, I believe my system is GPU bound (red FPS)

@RydarusVeneris

Turn shadows off etc before entering a warzone 

Go into the Nvidia Control panel and set pre rendered frames to 1 and see if that helps smooth things , if it doesnt try between 2 to 4 and see what works best.

Pre-rendered frames wont help frame rates itslef but if you are getting stuttering it may get rid of it

Shadows are generally off for me, especially in PvP. Pre rendered frames also changed.

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@RydarusVeneris wrote:

I've set my connection as metered to block updates. I'll try to work around it at some point but frankly too lazy, also due to the issues TOR has with newer versions of Windows 10 (Display driver resetting and random loading screens) I'd frankly just rather not mess with it.

is SWTORUnleashed still a thing?

Also, I believe my system is GPU bound (red FPS)

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My driver for my GTX970 has been fine 

Random load screens like you say can be from the driver resetting, can also be a power management issue 

There has been a lot of issues with the recent driver for FPS in games in general see this link scroll through about fps diving , given this is a laptop, best to return to dell drivers initially to check driver rest isn't from generic drivers

Also dell released a BIOS update marked urgent yesterday .... Link to drivers 

Edit - Swtor unleashed is not allowed be used anymore

If you had to pick a stress test area that one could do at 4 AM without it being a warzone or operation what would it be? 😞

@RydarusVeneris

Fleet (for numbers of players around) or  up and down the town section on Rishi 

gonna try the rishi town, fleet empty at this hour. I assume shadows right? Rishi isn't demanding without shadows heh.

Also, out of curiosity how much meaning does GPU bound carry in this game? does the red FPS mean a new GPU would improve frames or is it pretty much bunk cause this engine is *?

Kinda ludicrous that one can max out fallout 4 with 60 frames yet not faceroll a 5 year old MMO....

@RydarusVeneris

Sure put shadows on 

There is one section there that takes my 970 down to 40 briefly ...... otherwise it sits near 110 fps all the time

The stretch with the bridges is taking me down to 40, rest floating around 60, sometimes 50. Settings max, except for shadows, shadows are high but at lowest map resolution and cascades. Grass viewdistance medium, Player viewdistance medium.

@RydarusVeneris

I would say swtor is more CPU bound, Red doesnt necessarily mean GPU , all red really indicates is rendering.

Now swtor has 3 cache files , and certain parts of preparing the rendering is handled by the CPU.....

Good to know, imma try and garner a PvP pop and see if I can't garner the coveted 25+ average FPS in the heavy melee.

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@RydarusVeneris wrote:

The stretch with the bridges is taking me down to 40, rest floating around 60, sometimes 50. Settings max, except for shadows, shadows are high but at lowest map resolution and cascades. Grass viewdistance medium, Player viewdistance medium.

@RydarusVeneris

Sounds about right,  I gather you have vsynch enabled to cap at 60 ? if so along with pre-rendered frames turn the triple buffer on, if vsynch is off turn triple buffer off , whilst triple buffer is more OpenGL I have seen testing that had an affect also in directx 

I can't turn vsync on. There's an issue with some of the 900 series where there's diagonal screen tearing in games when vsync is on. It's a gamebreaking issue that Nvidia has failed to fix for ages.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/903422/diagonal-screen-tearing-issues-on-gtx-860m-870m-960m-965m-970m-980m-/#4809037

PvP pop, we shall see how FPS goes.

@RydarusVeneris

Least they have a fix in the works out soon by the looks ..... their bugs appearing are just like swtor patches recently 😇

FPS looked better, Noshadows seemed to dip down to 16 at the worst, slightly more frequently for with shadows, but shadowless managed to get 25+ more frequently it seems.

@RydarusVeneris

If you turn name plate scaling off you will get a likely big improvement , but well nameplates will be huge .....

The Swtor UI is Adobe Scaleform just an older version

hmm, probably won't do that.

Regardless, seems smoother in PvP, not sure how it'll raid 🙂 thanks for all the help!

@RydarusVeneris

Welcome

@RydarusVeneris

Two things from me, look at the shadow map, thats seems to a big part of the problemwith shadows.

Turn Nameplates for friendly NPC and Players off, if not done already.