Wow! What a horrible neuter of the normal AAT raid! Went from 7-8 days to 12 hours to beat. I mean, how can you just reduce it to nothing?!? I literally soloed phase 4 with 4 teams a couple days ago. That's just not right! How can you make it easier AND also reduce the health? My biggest problem is not the nerf, it's now, how does my squad know when it's time to move up?! There is no fair and easy way of determining it as we can never all try our squads out cause the health is so low. Now we have to blow 90k to find out we can't?!? Sucks!Also, finishing the raid in a few hours only to have to wait 3 days to have enough coins to start again? Bad math Devs!! We should be able to raid every day as part of being in a guild! Solution:Add a tier in between? Why not match the heroic in terms of strength and health but give us multiple attacks so when we get down to 2 days, we will know we can move up. I don't see why that wasn't the obvious option! Instead, you made the normal TWICE as much health! Again no apples to apples comparison. How hard would it be to make it the same on both besides the multiple attacks in 24 hours?!#EpicFail

My guild is wondering the same thing! Would also like to see a health comparison between normal tank and heroic

I love the idea of having a heroic difficulty raid, albeit without the shards, and having character refreshes. It would give guilds an easy way to gauge when you're ready for the real deal heroic raid. Seems like it would be an obvious implementation into the game... So I wouldn't expect it.

"Link2440;83820" wrote:Wow! What a horrible neuter of the normal AAT raid! Went from 7-8 days to 12 hours to beat. I mean, how can you just reduce it to nothing?!? I literally soloed phase 4 with 4 teams a couple days ago. That's just not right! How can you make it easier AND also reduce the health? My biggest problem is not the nerf, it's now, how does my squad know when it's time to move up?! There is no fair and easy way of determining it as we can never all try our squads out cause the health is so low. Now we have to blow 90k to find out we can't?!? Sucks!Also, finishing the raid in a few hours only to have to wait 3 days to have enough coins to start again? Bad math Devs!! We should be able to raid every day as part of being in a guild! Solution:Add a tier in between? Why not match the heroic in terms of strength and health but give us multiple attacks so when we get down to 2 days, we will know we can move up. I don't see why that wasn't the obvious option! Instead, you made the normal TWICE as much health! Again no apples to apples comparison. How hard would it be to make it the same on both besides the multiple attacks in 24 hours?!#EpicFail That is not a good indicator because you can reuse characters in normal if you go over 24 hours. Heroic has no roster refreshes.

I think we are on our 4th heroic now, I'm sure our top guy could easily solo T6.Maybe it's easy now for some guilds but guilds can now reasonably progress from T7 Rancor. The jump from T6 AAT to T7 is huge, especially if people don't plan far ahead and develop the best teams.

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mookie101010
8 years ago
My guild is wondering the same thing! Would also like to see a health comparison between normal tank and heroic
gatormatt80
8 years ago
I love the idea of having a heroic difficulty raid, albeit without the shards, and having character refreshes. It would give guilds an easy way to gauge when you're ready for the real deal heroic raid. Seems like it would be an obvious implementation into the game... So I wouldn't expect it.
mikebpiz
8 years ago
Do heroic. Problem solved.
scuba75
Rising Rookie
8 years ago
"Link2440;83820" wrote:
Wow! What a horrible neuter of the normal AAT raid! Went from 7-8 days to 12 hours to beat. I mean, how can you just reduce it to nothing?!? I literally soloed phase 4 with 4 teams a couple days ago. That's just not right! How can you make it easier AND also reduce the health?

My biggest problem is not the nerf, it's now, how does my squad know when it's time to move up?! There is no fair and easy way of determining it as we can never all try our squads out cause the health is so low. Now we have to blow 90k to find out we can't?!? Sucks!

Also, finishing the raid in a few hours only to have to wait 3 days to have enough coins to start again? Bad math Devs!! We should be able to raid every day as part of being in a guild!

Solution:
Add a tier in between? Why not match the heroic in terms of strength and health but give us multiple attacks so when we get down to 2 days, we will know we can move up. I don't see why that wasn't the obvious option! Instead, you made the normal TWICE as much health! Again no apples to apples comparison. How hard would it be to make it the same on both besides the multiple attacks in 24 hours?!

#EpicFail

That is not a good indicator because you can reuse characters in normal if you go over 24 hours. Heroic has no roster refreshes.
sneeekypants
8 years ago
I think we are on our 4th heroic now, I'm sure our top guy could easily solo T6.

Maybe it's easy now for some guilds but guilds can now reasonably progress from T7 Rancor. The jump from T6 AAT to T7 is huge, especially if people don't plan far ahead and develop the best teams.
RyanRenRockstar
8 years ago
Scuba is correct. For my guild, we are waiting until we can consistently finish in one day before trying heroic.
MNclone
8 years ago
The current state should have been add as t5.
Fullserenity1
8 years ago
The new normal AAT is far better, and now it aligns more with the Gear VIII, LVl 80, 6* requirements listed on the raid. Our guild has a lot of newer players who are stuck at the gear wall going from VIII to IX & X.

The first comment on the new Normal was someone saying it's not so demoralizing anymore. They weren't going in throwing everything they had at it and reducing the health 1%. We can finish it in three days now.
mookie101010
8 years ago
thanks for the tips @jackTHErandom. That's the info I was looking for
Tavanh87
8 years ago
You're better off blowing 90k guild coins to test the waters. Just make sure you keep track of who can do what and coordinate it. My guild failed our last Heroic trying to beat phase 3 so now we know to work on Phase 1 & 3 teams. We also keep up a google docs file listing our team and their gear for each phase for Heroic. It's extra work but WAAAAAAY better than bashing our head for +4 days trying to beat pre-normal AAT.