Another Pilotless Ship (are you kidding me?)

I'm viewing this in the opposite way. It's one less ship that needs massive investment in the pilot in order to be competitive (assuming it performs as well as Hyena and the GR Y-Wing). Happy Times.

"UdalCuain;c-2109485" wrote:
I'm viewing this in the opposite way. It's one less ship that needs massive investment in the pilot in order to be competitive (assuming it performs as well as Hyena and the GR Y-Wing). Happy Times.

I’m glad we are getting something. My only gripe is the reason why. Are we getting more OT content or is this a one off? We need the road ahead to answer these questions.

"ANH;d-229547" wrote:
Dear CG:

I love SWGOH.

Ships is one of the best things in the game.

Pilotless ships reduce players' ROI on existing piloted ships, and also the average value of fleets in the game.

Would you please share with those of us who have invested in high-relic pilots, why you continue to trivialize our hard work and focus by releasing ships that can be farmed by anyone with such little effort?

At least help us understand the thinking, so those of us who did "real" work on our fleets (read: we invested in the pilots) can breathe a sigh of understanding that it's a rational approach, and that our efforts weren't wasted.

Alternatively, would you please knock it off?

Best Regards,
ANH

what does even mean? you are upset that a new ship replaces HT in that lineup so it can be used eleswhere, and that somehow devalues past effort, or something? so confused

rtt: sweet, another pilotless ship!

"Gifafi;c-2109491" wrote:


what does even mean? you are upset that a new ship replaces HT in that lineup so it can be used eleswhere, and that somehow devalues past effort, or something? so confused

rtt: sweet, another pilotless ship!

Yours is a false interpretation about what I said.

I didn't say I was upset that a new ship replaces HT. If you disagree, re-read what I wrote. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, since I didn't mention HT in my post, nor did I even allude to it. Unless you think that my point about relic'd pilots was a specific allusion to HT. For the record, my point about pilot relics was not at all in reference to HT.

So let me set that record straight. I'm happy this ship adds more ability for people to a) use their rebels again and b) replace HT. Hope that's black and white enough for you.

What is devalued (as I already pointed out, and as people familiar with economics and returns on investment will easily recognize) is the effort we already spent on high-geared pilots. CG seems to be going down a path of releasing ONLY pilotless ships moving forward. Which does, in point of fact, reduce the amount of time and resources players must spend to make their fleets useful - on average.

For those of us who have already done this with existing fleets and pilots, CG releasing pilotless ships reduces the average value (i.e., time and resources invested) to make fleets valuable and usable in arenas and elsewhere.

Thanks for giving me a chance to clarify that I was not, in fact, talking at all about HT.

"ANH;c-2109512" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2109491" wrote:


what does even mean? you are upset that a new ship replaces HT in that lineup so it can be used eleswhere, and that somehow devalues past effort, or something? so confused

rtt: sweet, another pilotless ship!

Yours is a false interpretation about what I said.

I didn't say I was upset that a new ship replaces HT. If you disagree, re-read what I wrote. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, since I didn't mention HT in my post, nor did I even allude to it. Unless you think that my point about relic'd pilots was a specific allusion to HT. For the record, my point about pilot relics was not at all in reference to HT.

So let me set that record straight. I'm happy this ship adds more ability for people to a) use their rebels again and b) replace HT. Hope that's black and white enough for you.

What is devalued (as I already pointed out, and as people familiar with economics and returns on investment will easily recognize) is the effort we already spent on high-geared pilots. CG seems to be going down a path of releasing ONLY pilotless ships moving forward. Which does, in point of fact, reduce the amount of time and resources players must spend to make their fleets useful - on average.

For those of us who have already done this with existing fleets and pilots, CG releasing pilotless ships reduces the average value (i.e., time and resources invested) to make fleets valuable and usable in arenas and elsewhere.

Thanks for giving me a chance to clarify that I was not, in fact, talking at all about HT.

I brought up HT bc this ship replaces HT. You are happy about that. got it. What I don't get is how releasing ships without pilots devalues past investment in pilots and their ships. new ships don't affect your investment and it doesn't matter that they are pilotless. for ex., if you and player x both get this new ship and max it, you will have it plus your previously invested ships, so you will both still be where you started in terms of you being ahead. it's a non-issue imo. they have a tank for rebs, but you have a tank for rebs plus can use your better-than-their HT elsewhere.

Yeah I’m sure there are some pilots in game that are pretty useless (I’m looking at you Resistance X Wing Pilot), but this doesn’t devalue other pilots in the game. This is just making it easier for everyone to access the ship without having to worry about gearing a generic no-name pilot. The droid ships are an exception, given they are their own pilot

"Iy4oy4s;c-2109486" wrote:

"UdalCuain;c-2109485" wrote:
I'm viewing this in the opposite way. It's one less ship that needs massive investment in the pilot in order to be competitive (assuming it performs as well as Hyena and the GR Y-Wing). Happy Times.

I’m glad we are getting something. My only gripe is the reason why. Are we getting more OT content or is this a one off? We need the road ahead to answer these questions.

Or patience.

Pilot less ships are good, they simply cannot flood us with ships that would require gearing up pilots too.

They want to give us more ships and expand that area of the game but cannot do that if it all requires gearing pilots too, it will make the overall process too slow.

but dont you worry, i'm sure we will get more ships too that will require pilots, but it seems like they want to add a tank (or two) to the game to help round out other factions so they will have options other than HT.

Less credits, less relic, less zeta investment. Not seeing a negative on this one being pilotless.

"ANH;c-2109512" wrote:
Yours is a false interpretation about what I said.

I didn't say I was upset that a new ship replaces HT. If you disagree, re-read what I wrote. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, since I didn't mention HT in my post, nor did I even allude to it. Unless you think that my point about relic'd pilots was a specific allusion to HT. For the record, my point about pilot relics was not at all in reference to HT.

So let me set that record straight. I'm happy this ship adds more ability for people to a) use their rebels again and b) replace HT. Hope that's black and white enough for you.

What is devalued (as I already pointed out, and as people familiar with economics and returns on investment will easily recognize) is the effort we already spent on high-geared pilots. CG seems to be going down a path of releasing ONLY pilotless ships moving forward. Which does, in point of fact, reduce the amount of time and resources players must spend to make their fleets useful - on average.

For those of us who have already done this with existing fleets and pilots, CG releasing pilotless ships reduces the average value (i.e., time and resources invested) to make fleets valuable and usable in arenas and elsewhere.

Thanks for giving me a chance to clarify that I was not, in fact, talking at all about HT.

New content continuously devalues old content.

My troopers used to be arena viable under Thrawn. Now, they barely see use, plucking off weak teams in GAC. They've been devalued by basically every team since CLS was released.

New content devalues old content. That's the nature of the beast. The fact that the Rebel Y-Wing is pilotless is immaterial to that point.

And no, CG is not going down a path of only releasing pilotless ships. It's just the new shiny tech that they're sprinkling in right now. Right now, the overall investment to get a fleet going can be massive. Rebels especially; Rebel pilots is the literal worst gear of the game. Pilotless ships help bring that in line.