Assault Battles - Resistance

"Balael;d-266381" wrote:
So there is an assault battle for every major faction except resistance?

Can we get this added or is it something that is coming?

Why are they omitted from such an important game mode?

I want to say that resistance had an assault battle at one point but were removed from it? I may just be old and confused (ok grandpa, let's get you to bed). Someone can set me straight on that if I'm wrong.

Resistance was a really popular faction in the first couple of years of the game. Finn lead dominated in LS TB and was doing some serious heavy lifting in the tank raid even before JTR came along. I think CG felt like they'd be 'giving it away' if they made an assault battle for resistance back then. I guess they just never came back around to it - though I'm not sure why. People took a hard left turn towards first order when GL Rey and SLKR were released. Finn's leadership nerf didn't help this situation. On top of that peoples irrational hate for Rose (who has been a great character since the day she was released and added another level of control to the JTR lineup back in the day) and things weren't looking good for the faction. It got so bad they had to put Zorii in the game to revitalize interest in the faction.

Really not sure why GL Rey was so unpopular for so long. She's amazing - always has been - and holds her own in GAC even today. Easily one of the strongest defensive teams in the game.

I'd love to see an AB for resistance - I got JTR during her first event, Rey was my first GL - I've been a fan of the faction since Scav Rey was the pinnacle of damage dealers in the game. Bring it on CG - my resistance characters are bored!

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"DarjeloSalas;c-2444610" wrote:
They were included in the Ground War Assault Battle initially, but were subsequently removed.

I thought so. Couldn't remember for sure.

"Cynyc;c-2444634" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2444627" wrote:

"Cynyc;c-2444623" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2444611" wrote:

"Balael;d-266381" wrote:
So there is an assault battle for every major faction except resistance?

Can we get this added or is it something that is coming?

Why are they omitted from such an important game mode?

On top of that peoples irrational hate for Rose

I won’t speak to hate, but I strongly dislike this movie character, and I’ve quite logical reasons for it.

If people don’t like a character, they may not be inclined to farm that character in a game set within that universe, mechanical viability notwithstanding.

I just had to hone in on this particular comment because the *character* (not the actress) deserves every shred of criticism it gets

I figured someone might but was really hoping they wouldn't. Her character in the game is strong and always has been especially under JTR lead, but even more so now with her omicron paired with Zorii. Which just makes the bullheaded stubborn refusal to farm her all the more irrational. I'm not a fan of plenty of characters as they were portrayed in the movies, but appreciate the strategic value of their kits in the game.

Right, but this is a *character collection* game in the **star wars** universe.

If people don’t like a character, they’ll be less inclined to farm that character. I don’t consider that “stubborn, Bull-headed”, or “irrational”. I consider that good, common sense.

If mechanical viability is your priority, that’s perfectly fine. I’d be entirely disingenuous, however, if I tried to pretend your values in this game are more or less important than my own. When you tell other people they’re behaving or thinking poorly because they don’t share your values, you’re:

1) being entirely disingenuous and/or
2) failing to consider other perspectives

That's fine, we can agree to disagree on that. I really, very strongly disliked Kylo Ren in the movies. I thought he was the weakest and least compelling of any star wars villain to date - also bratty, whiney, and petulant. But you can bet I have SLKR, KRU, Kylo Ren, and Ben Solo all farmed, unlocked, and reliced appropriately. I personally think it would be silly to hobble my roster and negatively impact my success in the game just because I didn't like the character in the movies. As a guild leader it really gets under my skin when my guild members flat out refuse to farm characters because "they don't like them" in particular when it's in conflict with one of our stated goals. It's the whole reason why our guild is sitting on 16 Reva shards right now while other guilds of our size have already unlocked her. If our guild were less casual, I would kick those players, but it's not who we are as a group and being casual has other benefits.

If your only definition of "success" is having the characters that you liked in the movies or shows or other games - more power to you - play the game how you want. But in the context of contributing to your guild and maximizing your rewards and effectiveness in all game modes, it's an objectively poor and irrational choice to pass on Rey just because you don't like Rose's character in the movies. Again, it goes back to how you define "success" - and if your definition differs from mine, that's ok. I get it - you have a different criteria for what makes your farming list.

That's not me being disingenuous - nor is it failing to consider another perspective - that's me being 100% honest.

But this is why I didn't want to go down this road - this is all completely tangential to the purpose of the thread.

How would you feel about a resistance assault battle being added to the game?

I'd love it if resistance got an assault battle (and they seem to be the one major faction missing one). I would probably end up farming characters particularly for that purpose. ABs are a great part of the game's economy and adding another one would help add a few more zetas and relic mats in a month at the top end.

I really don't want to start a fight. That's not the purpose of my question here.

But what, Cynyc, is your objection to the use of "irrational" -- such as in this excerpt:

If people don’t like a character, they’ll be less inclined to farm that character. I don’t consider that “stubborn, Bull-headed”, or “irrational”. I consider that good, common sense.

If people don't like a character, and farm according to their "likes", I would consider that the definition of irrational. It's your emotional response to the character that determines whether or not you farm them. So why wouldn't you agree that this is "irrational"?

And please don't mistake me. I play this game **at all** for irrational reasons. I have fun in this game, particularly when interacting with my guildmates or people on 50 Shards. I like having fun. Therefore I continue to play this game.

My reasons for playing are COMPLETELY irrational. That doesn't mean that they are bad reasons.

At a guess, it seems like you are conflating "irrational reasons" with "bad reasons". I bought someone a bottle of merlot because I love them and they like merlot and I had the money on hand. Was that a "bad reason" to buy merlot? Nope. But it was entirely, completely irrational -- based on emotions and tastes all the way down.

So, purely out of curiosity, are you actually saying that disliking a movie character is a "rational" reason to refuse to farm an SWGOH toon?

Or are you just saying that's common human behaviour, an expected reason, and, for whatever value of "good" you want to use, a good or good enough reason?

I agree with the latter. I don't agree with the former.

I mean regardless of who you like to farm or why…

I still think there should be a resistance AB ?.

"Cynyc;c-2444623" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2444611" wrote:

"Balael;d-266381" wrote:
So there is an assault battle for every major faction except resistance?

Can we get this added or is it something that is coming?

Why are they omitted from such an important game mode?

On top of that peoples irrational hate for Rose

I won’t speak to hate, but I strongly dislike this movie character, and I’ve quite logical reasons for it.

If people don’t like a character, they may not be inclined to farm that character in a game set within that universe, mechanical viability notwithstanding.

I just had to hone in on this particular comment because the *character* (not the actress) deserves every shred of criticism it gets

I figured someone might but was really hoping they wouldn't. Her character in the game is strong and always has been especially under JTR lead, but even more so now with her omicron paired with Zorii. Which just makes the bullheaded stubborn refusal to farm her all the more irrational. I'm not a fan of plenty of characters as they were portrayed in the movies, but appreciate the strategic value of their kits in the game.

"Balael;c-2444702" wrote:
I mean regardless of who you like to farm or why…

I still think there should be a resistance AB ?.

I agree 100%

Combined with Mandalorians maybe? Possibly with a set-up such that Mauldalorians (or another good Mando team) could finish CT1 and maybe CT2 but you'd need GL Rey (or possibly a new GL Mando?) to 3* CT3. Would seem like a fair balance on rosters in comparison with other assault battles then.