Bad Batch S1:E4 Chat (SPOILERS)

Another episode focused around omega boring.
This show would have worked so much better if she wasn't in it.

Another episode focussed around someone the Bad Batch cares about getting kidnapped as part of a fight for profit and power between factions that support an Imperial army made up of clone troopers vs one made up of non clone storm troopers, where the bad batch had to chase a fan favorite bounty hunter through streets and sewers before Hunter jumps on a speeder bike and chases kidnapper and loved one through the skies, with explosions and danger galore, even exposing Wrecker's weakness against quick and agile opponents, setting up future moments for more drama when he again fights through a multitude of slow moving, armored opponents but then once again has to face a single, skilled fighter...maybe even Crosshair, who is already known to have taken him down once before?

Yep, sounds boring as heck. I don't know why they bothered.

Another boring episode about the misfortunes of the girl mascot cliche.
It seems that these 16 episodes will only have about half with interesting history.

Interesting how they added Fennec to the story, and I bet she will be in more episodes. Either that, or the series is just going to be cameo after cameo.

"Xcien;c-2262524" wrote:
Interesting how they added Fennec to the story, and I bet she will be in more episodes. Either that, or the series is just going to be cameo after cameo.

People loved it with The Mandalorian for some reason.

Echo sure
looked a lot like Chappie

"MasterSeedy;c-2262509" wrote:

Another episode focused around omega boring.
This show would have worked so much better if she wasn't in it.

Another episode focussed around someone the Bad Batch cares about getting kidnapped as part of a fight for profit and power between factions that support an Imperial army made up of clone troopers vs one made up of non clone storm troopers, where the bad batch had to chase a fan favorite bounty hunter through streets and sewers before Hunter jumps on a speeder bike and chases kidnapper and loved one through the skies, with explosions and danger galore, even exposing Wrecker's weakness against quick and agile opponents, setting up future moments for more drama when he again fights through a multitude of slow moving, armored opponents but then once again has to face a single, skilled fighter...maybe even Crosshair, who is already known to have taken him down once before?

Yep, sounds boring as heck. I don't know why they bothered.

It really seems like these clowns want to hate Omega because they're entitled to do so. Her story is the most important to the viewership because we don't know it.

Omega being a female child seems to be the only thing driving these petty, inane comments.

"CCyrilS;c-2262561" wrote:

"TargetEadu;c-2262051" wrote:
Poor Wreaker.

you mean wreakuh?

We could devote a whole thread just to irritating things omeegah says

So now you're mad because she doesn't speak English with whatever accent you speak it with? lol

All you unfortunate people spending all this time hating a female child. Must be terrible IRL for you

Hopefully the series starts picking up steam. First episode was awesome, now its all laying ground work. Makes me kinda wish I waited until it all was out so I could binge watch the season. 20-25 minutes feels like they get started telling the story then have to stop.

"JainaSolo;c-2262889" wrote:
There are plenty of female characters in Star Wars that people like ( Ahsoka, Leia, Padme, Sabine, etc).

THANK YOU.... for not putting Rey in the list !



Joke aside, it also depends on what the endgoal of the series is. I feel that it would get boring quickly if the story was just about how a group of special troopers got the new Empire in check through big battles. There is not a long to explore there that would be different from everything covered elsewhere in the saga.

Instead, they seem to have chosen a different path where we now see what it's like to be a refugee/deserter on the run, with everything that it implies: getting supplies, getting in an out of planets somehow,having to rely on shady characters because there is not much more that can be done ... with the added complexity of having a child onboard.

Given that it's Dave Filoni behind the scenes, I agree that we'll probably start seeing Omega believe in herself and slowly showing what she's capable of, similar to what Ashoka did. I do like that she's also not the super-gifted one just yet, otherwise it would also be a repeat of Ashoka or Rey.

They are not necessarily rushing, instead showing the storyline of characters on the run in a Star Wars universe. Patience, we must have.

@Wookieflyer

All good points. I'd like to add though, that they're clearly setting up a power struggle WITHIN the empire about how the Imperial army will operate going forward: clones or non clones.

People have been asking for a long time why the StormTroopers are not clones when the Clone Troopers were already there & trained. The series is obviously set up to answer that ... and answer it in a very interesting way. After all, we have experienced the clones as nothing but heroes up until Order 66, and their participation in O66 wasn't their fault. This series has the Bad Batch set up as heroes (mostly, leave Crosshair aside for now), with non clones (the Kaminoan cloners and the Imperial hierarchy) clearly making overtly evil decisions.

Usually in fiction the clones are set up as inherently unworthy, inherently less than, and very often inherently lacking in free will.

In this story, the lack of free will is not inherent to the clones. It's something added that's not organic, that isn't just about "growing that way". It's the inhibitor chip. Here the clones have the potential to be as morally interesting, as heroic or evil, as non clone persons so long as the inhibitor chip is defeated.

Meanwhile, Omega is our entry point to the Imperial clone trooper vs. storm trooper conflict. If the Bad Batch were only on the run (an important part of the story as you mention), we would never get to see what's happening with the conflict inside the Imperial military & between the military and Kamino. But with Omega being a next gen clone needed for Kamino's capitalist project to make more and more money by proving their clones superior, Omega's protectors, in this case the Bad Batch, are very likely to discover what's going on with the Kaminoan clone industry. And if they discover what, they have a good chance to discover why.

This is obviously the point of Omega: while the story lines of going on the run can be interesting, Omega provides a reason for the Bad Batch to get involved in a conflict that will ultimately provide the answer to the question, "Why aren't Storm Troopers clones?" that the fans have been asking for decades now.

Omega is crucial. Making the Bad Batch actually care about Omega, bringing her into the family, that's also crucial. I mean, there are lots of people kidnapped or harmed in the galaxy: it's a big place. They can't rescue everyone, so we have to see that Bad Batch has a reason to risk it all for this one particular person, Omega.

That's what we're getting now, that's why there's so much focus on relationship development. It's crucial to the whole structure of what follows, and to achieving the resolution for which fans have been waiting.