Dynamic Adjustment

"leef;c-1879522" wrote:
what's the goal here?
If they were going to admit to using such a system, they would have by now. If you still believe they're using such a system, you're not going to believe they aren't no matter what they say.
Believe what you want to believe, personally i'd pick the option that enrages me the most so i can get more and more upset every time i get bad drops. Works like a charm, really enjoyable.

Also, you do know this is a silly response? In lieu of dynamically changing drops or adjustments, Drop rates would be fixed.

"Reyalp;c-1879525" wrote:

"leef;c-1879522" wrote:
what's the goal here?
If they were going to admit to using such a system, they would have by now. If you still believe they're using such a system, you're not going to believe they aren't no matter what they say.
Believe what you want to believe, personally i'd pick the option that enrages me the most so i can get more and more upset every time i get bad drops. Works like a charm, really enjoyable.

The semantics of their response said 'manual'. A dynamic algorithm is anything but manual, especially when it's based on machine learning.

Since they can just flat out lie without consequenses, i don't see why you want to argue sementics here.

A game that takes money from people should be transparent in how it does so. If an algorithm dynamically changes drop rates to induce you in to playing longer or spending money then it prays on gambling.

Transparancy on such a system would definately not benefit the game, or the players for that matter.

It's not about whether you agree or disagree with it - however it certainly puts the 'RNG' arguement to bed as that doesn't exist in a game that dynamically adapts to the situation based on trained data

So what is it about? A hypothetical discussion about RNG not excisting under the assumption that they're using such a system? What purpose would that serve?

If they use that, what's the problem? A lot of games have shady things, it's just the way games are. People shouldn't be betrayed by it or anything. If the game uses it, it's a feature in the game and that's it.

We are speaking about EA, which is REPORTEDLY the worst company ever, let alone the worst videogame producer. Are you surprised? Just make some history research on the internet about what they did in the past.

What irritates about conspiracy theories is that people assume something, argue about it and lash out regarding the thing they have no proof of...

Let's explore the assumption that droprate manipulation occurs close to thresholds (the 99/100 being the classic example people give) in conjunction with the fact that droprate tracking puts the average at 33%.

There's only one way in which you can be negatively affected by this and that's if you are easily frustrated and choose to spend to relive that frustration. If you just accept the fact that farming slows down at 99/100 and carry on doing your normal amount of sims per day then the inclusion of dynamic drop rates has exactly zero impact on you.

If you also come back to reality and accept the fact that with a flat drop rate you will very regularly be stuck at 99/100 getting a string of zeros, you'll realize that they don't need to implement drop rate manipulation to frustrate a great number of people that post on these forums ;)

In the end we'll probably never know the truth, so just play the game and stop worrying about it.

"EduardoCadav;c-1879538" wrote:
Let's explore the assumption that droprate manipulation occurs close to thresholds (the 99/100 being the classic example people give) in conjunction with the fact that droprate tracking puts the average at 33%.

There's only one way in which you can be negatively affected by this and that's if you are easily frustrated and choose to spend to relive that frustration. If you just accept the fact that farming slows down at 99/100 and carry on doing your normal amount of sims per day then the inclusion of dynamic drop rates has exactly zero impact on you.

If you also come back to reality and accept the fact that with a flat drop rate you will very regularly be stuck at 99/100 getting a string of zeros, you'll realize that they don't need to implement drop rate manipulation to frustrate a great number of people that post on these forums ;)

In the end we'll probably never know the truth, so just play the game and stop worrying about it.

Is making you waste more energy and even more crystals than you should as the umpteenth attempt to manipulate you into spending zero impact?

"EduardoCadav;c-1879538" wrote:

In the end we'll probably never know the truth, so just play the game and stop worrying about it.

If you chose to accept lies and live a happy life with that just do as you like. They will never admit that they use it somewhere, of course not. But if they have such patents they will use them, especially when they have to pay money to get it in first place. The sheer existence is evidence enough, believe it or not.

"Drazhar;c-1879541" wrote:

"EduardoCadav;c-1879538" wrote:
Let's explore the assumption that droprate manipulation occurs close to thresholds (the 99/100 being the classic example people give) in conjunction with the fact that droprate tracking puts the average at 33%.

There's only one way in which you can be negatively affected by this and that's if you are easily frustrated and choose to spend to relive that frustration. If you just accept the fact that farming slows down at 99/100 and carry on doing your normal amount of sims per day then the inclusion of dynamic drop rates has exactly zero impact on you.

If you also come back to reality and accept the fact that with a flat drop rate you will very regularly be stuck at 99/100 getting a string of zeros, you'll realize that they don't need to implement drop rate manipulation to frustrate a great number of people that post on these forums ;)

In the end we'll probably never know the truth, so just play the game and stop worrying about it.

Is making you waste more energy and even more crystals than you should as the umpteenth attempt to manipulate you into spending zero impact?

point 1: The average is still 33%, if the expenditure of energy/crystals comes at the end or in the middle it's irrelevant unless you let it be.

point 2: If you accept a constant drop rate you already accept they are manipulating you to spend more. With at constant droprate the randomness means you will be stuck a 99/100 for long periods on a regular basis as well. If being stuck at 99/100 is manipulating you to spend then the game is manipulating you to spend whether it engineers this circumstance or it occurs through randomness.

It's a fremium mobile game, of course it's manipulating you to spend. Not only with random drops, but with time gated energy growth, other limited resource incomes and PvP competition based on regularly released power increments and PvE competition with regularly released difficulty levels. If you don't like being manipulated to spend you are playing the wrong game.

"evoluza;c-1879540" wrote:

"EduardoCadav;c-1879538" wrote:
Let's explore the assumption that droprate manipulation occurs close to thresholds (the 99/100 being the classic example people give) in conjunction with the fact that droprate tracking puts the average at 33%.

There's only one way in which you can be negatively affected by this and that's if you are easily frustrated and choose to spend to relive that frustration. If you just accept the fact that farming slows down at 99/100 and carry on doing your normal amount of sims per day then the inclusion of dynamic drop rates has exactly zero impact on you.

If you also come back to reality and accept the fact that with a flat drop rate you will very regularly be stuck at 99/100 getting a string of zeros, you'll realize that they don't need to implement drop rate manipulation to frustrate a great number of people that post on these forums ;)

In the end we'll probably never know the truth, so just play the game and stop worrying about it.

Take marquee packs as example and tell me it wouldn't be bad

Yeah lets take the one example they have published/advertised constant drop rates for.