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nabokovfan87
5 years ago

GL Luke vs SLK - Absolutely Crazy

Well, I got my first taste of this in arena today. A non-ult, not even fully zeta'd GLLuke under JKL can absolutely dismiss the SLK matchup. I see reports of this with SEE vs. SLK as well where SLK can solo them. The luke battle is literally 20-30 seconds and there isn't anything he can do to even have a chance.

I'd like to see CG comment and review this in some way. We need confirmation that "this is what is expected" in terms of the investment into GLs and what happens when the next one comes out. As someone who spent over 6 months grinding one character and getting it done and then literally if GA or Arena or TW there's absolutely nothing anything on my roster can do with that. Nothing.

As mentioned, we need to see something from CG about this and about whether or not it is an issue in their eyes or not. I can suggest one option which would be to allow SLK to ignore taunt and have some kind of a chance at actually fighting in the battle. We can talk about how SLK weakens and kills off ~75% of dark side allies and how that needs to be looked at to give him some chance of strategic versatility.

Here is a video of the battle in question, it's about a 20-30 second battle and literally just hit auto and it's not even close.

https://youtu.be/rfAmVFIcCXo

Edit: it matters not what lead is used, here's another squad. I updated the title for clarity. https://youtu.be/M72zyI0Pra4
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  • 7AnimalMother's avatar
    7AnimalMother
    5 years ago
    "TVF;c-2179407" wrote:
    I have never wanted diversity. I want an easy climb at work for the most valuable resource in the game, thank you very much.


    Bingo
  • chof3's avatar
    chof3
    5 years ago
    Again, the post is about diversity in arena, teams countering GLs both new and old, some with ease, not about players leaving the game. No kidding people leave and come for various reasons, this being one of them but not the point of this post. I should have known better than to mention that part because as usual on this forum, people hyper-focus on one sentence or statement and miraculously ignore the major point of the post, causing the conversation to go way off the rails.

    Diversity is good. the current situation in arena is WAI as i believe, except maybe SLK shouldn't be able to steamroll SEE but ultimate may change that, we shall see, but the new GLs should not just dominate the prior GLs and there should be counters for F2P or those not going for GLs for whatever reason. That was my point to the OP not the BS conversation around why people leave the game as it is an argument that cannot be won as no one has the real data for that. My bad for even saying it, I should have known better than to open that can of worms.
  • chof3's avatar
    chof3
    5 years ago
    TVF, you are either a lawyer or you are a in politics. If not, you should be. (not a compliment.)
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Rising Traveler
    5 years ago
    "Borat;c-2179476" wrote:
    Again, the post is about diversity in arena, teams countering GLs both new and old, some with ease, not about players leaving the game. No kidding people leave and come for various reasons, this being one of them but not the point of this post. I should have known better than to mention that part because as usual on this forum, people hyper-focus on one sentence or statement and miraculously ignore the major point of the post, causing the conversation to go way off the rails.

    Diversity is good. the current situation in arena is WAI as i believe, except maybe SLK shouldn't be able to steamroll SEE but ultimate may change that, we shall see, but the new GLs should not just dominate the prior GLs and there should be counters for F2P or those not going for GLs for whatever reason. That was my point to the OP not the **** conversation around why people leave the game as it is an argument that cannot be won as no one has the real data for that. My bad for even saying it, I should have known better than to open that can of worms.


    As decided by whom?
    CG is the only one that can say if that is true or not.
    What does it really matter if it steam rolls it or beats it decently?
    I see this as forcing decisions as more people unlock SEE and get into TW/GAC planning for their rosters
  • 7AnimalMother's avatar
    7AnimalMother
    5 years ago
    Steps to the dumbing of society.
    1. Watch Video
    2. Abandon creatively thinking for oneself
    3. Believe the video shows the only possible truth
    4. Post on social media complaining about the unjustness of the video
    5. Infect others who now proceed the same way
  • chof3's avatar
    chof3
    5 years ago
    "scuba;c-2179483" wrote:
    "Borat;c-2179476" wrote:
    Again, the post is about diversity in arena, teams countering GLs both new and old, some with ease, not about players leaving the game. No kidding people leave and come for various reasons, this being one of them but not the point of this post. I should have known better than to mention that part because as usual on this forum, people hyper-focus on one sentence or statement and miraculously ignore the major point of the post, causing the conversation to go way off the rails.

    Diversity is good. the current situation in arena is WAI as i believe, except maybe SLK shouldn't be able to steamroll SEE but ultimate may change that, we shall see, but the new GLs should not just dominate the prior GLs and there should be counters for F2P or those not going for GLs for whatever reason. That was my point to the OP not the **** conversation around why people leave the game as it is an argument that cannot be won as no one has the real data for that. My bad for even saying it, I should have known better than to open that can of worms.


    As decided by whom?
    CG is the only one that can say if that is true or not.
    What does it really matter if it steam rolls it or beats it decently?
    I see this as forcing decisions as more people unlock SEE and get into TW/GAC planning for their rosters


    I said I believe. Not that it is WAI as it it was stated by the devs. read man. I don't think that was intended but it does seem out of sorts with how things have been with the prior 2 GLs. If it is WAI and he is intended to steamroll SEE then fine. But I was just saying it doesn't seem right. But again, my belief, not fact and without ultimate ability, it is hard to say this won't change (or will change).
  • chof3's avatar
    chof3
    5 years ago
    "7AnimalMother;c-2179484" wrote:
    Steps to the dumbing of society.
    1. Watch Video
    2. Abandon creatively thinking for oneself
    3. Believe the video shows the only possible truth
    4. Post on social media complaining about the unjustness of the video
    5. Infect others who now proceed the same way


    Same issue with the videos by bulldog showing Bastilla lead with JML is unbeatable. It is easily beatable, rarely times out if you do it correctly, and has several counters. The steamrolling of SEE by SLK is real though so the OP does have a little weight here. The other complaint posts are just that, complaints over one video of a time out or loss due to endless variables that can happen in a Vader counter to Rey therefore not 100% as some Youtubers like to say.
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Rising Traveler
    5 years ago
    "Borat;c-2179485" wrote:
    "scuba;c-2179483" wrote:
    "Borat;c-2179476" wrote:
    Again, the post is about diversity in arena, teams countering GLs both new and old, some with ease, not about players leaving the game. No kidding people leave and come for various reasons, this being one of them but not the point of this post. I should have known better than to mention that part because as usual on this forum, people hyper-focus on one sentence or statement and miraculously ignore the major point of the post, causing the conversation to go way off the rails.

    Diversity is good. the current situation in arena is WAI as i believe, except maybe SLK shouldn't be able to steamroll SEE but ultimate may change that, we shall see, but the new GLs should not just dominate the prior GLs and there should be counters for F2P or those not going for GLs for whatever reason. That was my point to the OP not the **** conversation around why people leave the game as it is an argument that cannot be won as no one has the real data for that. My bad for even saying it, I should have known better than to open that can of worms.


    As decided by whom?
    CG is the only one that can say if that is true or not.
    What does it really matter if it steam rolls it or beats it decently?
    I see this as forcing decisions as more people unlock SEE and get into TW/GAC planning for their rosters


    I said I believe. Not that it is WAI as it it was stated by the devs. read man. I don't think that was intended but it does seem out of sorts with how things have been with the prior 2 GLs. If it is WAI and he is intended to steamroll SEE then fine. But I was just saying it doesn't seem right. But again, my belief, not fact and without ultimate ability, it is hard to say this won't change (or will change).


    IMO that is a problem overall with the Community.
    "The last ones where like this so the new ones should be," tempers flare, arguments break out, People go crazy expecting something now now now (notice the "P" in people not directed at you). Granted some of this is on CG because they cave on stuff I don't think they should and should some times just tell the Players to "Git Gud," however they do have a business to run so I can understand the caving.

    You will never get an agreement from the Player Base as to what they want, what is good for the game as even with the vocal majority there are differences and some don't even know what they want.
    Example 2 people going back and forth if Arena Diversity is a good thing or not.
    We have posts all the time calling for Arena Diversity and when it happens, We get posts about X beating Y and "ruining my investment"
  • chof3's avatar
    chof3
    5 years ago
    That last line made me laugh. INVESTMENT. anyone who thinks that spending money on a virtual game as an investment needs to take a good look at themselves. I spend on this game, have all 4 GLS but never ever considered money spend on this as an investment. It is nothing more than a quick way to gratification and a small advantage in GAC at best. Arena is always full of counters and should never be expected to have one end all be all team that cannot be beaten no matter how much you spend. Well said
  • NyKynoe's avatar
    NyKynoe
    5 years ago
    "Borat;c-2179499" wrote:
    That last line made me laugh. INVESTMENT. anyone who thinks that spending money on a virtual game as an investment needs to take a good look at themselves. I spend on this game, have all 4 GLS but never ever considered money spend on this as an investment. It is nothing more than a quick way to gratification and a small advantage in GAC at best. Arena is always full of counters and should never be expected to have one end all be all team that cannot be beaten no matter how much you spend. Well said


    Investment into a game comes from other sources, not only money. That terms being taken to only mean money is not correct ever when it comes to a game, especially one that has been around this long.

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