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- bostonbrawler1Seasoned Novice
Normally in 5 tries, I would go 1st at least once. Today was the first time I went first 0/5 tries. Out of curiosity, I refreshed and tried 3 more attempts and still didnt go first. That’s 0-8 in going first today when my opponent and I have the same R9 Leviathan — same lineups.. and not that it matters but my fleet in general has higher GP across the board. Makes no sense. Seems like the matchup is coded so that the opponent goes first at a much higher rate, probably to get players frustrated and spend crystals on refreshes.
- LunalaeNew Traveler
Fact is that the player experience is more and more bad. But yes we all have to spend more crystals for refreshes and have to spend time in the game. Perhaps that's the aim but combined with a bad experience at some people players will stop playing.
- Finalistic_KleoSeasoned Rookie
Moreover, this is repeated on GAC and on TW
- DUNCAN1919Rising Vanguard
And? Of course it will as its random. It will seem worse in those modes as you only get one shot.
All you are doing here is showing you don't know what random means and also have complete and utter ignorance to how probability works in a coinflip scenario.- fitz1jSeasoned Rookie
Finalistic_Kleois quite clearly stating, using available evidence, that it's not random. I agree with him, as I am seeing the same thing. It's not a 50/50, the AI goes first more often for sure.
- Morgoth_swgohRising Rookie
I'm fairly certain the coin flip is actually 50/50 - if you doubt it, I encourage you to actually track your own rate by writing it down after every battle and then report back in a few weeks once you have some more data.
I spoke up in a previous thread as I had that same feeling, that I was losing the coinflip more often than not. I've been keeping track for the past 8 days. Sample size is still small, but with 21 tracked battles I've won the initial coin flip 11 times and have lost it 10.
I will continue to track this for a while longer and encourage everyone else to try and do the same. But please remember, that if you go from memory rather than writing things down, there's often a strong confirmation bias involved.However for good measure, ensure your DR have full on 6-dot mods as a first step, just mentioning this for good measure :)
- Ramon0165Seasoned Newcomer
Totally agree with you, CG did a really bad job on the Dagger, and now is so difficult to get crystals on Fleet arena. What’s the point of having the “best” meta fleet if you cannot even enjoy it or get into the first places of FA to get crystals. I’m starting to hate this game, and considering quitting
- Luxray0Rising Traveler
Sorry guys but this isn’t true. The fact is that the people who are posting about bad leviathan RNG are the ones who just got super unlucky in fleet arena today. Use the tie reaper as first reinforcement, it gives you a second coin flip for ult so your chance of losing is halved. Yes, the meta should change so it isn’t reliant on winning speed ties. But the rng is not broken. People have been saying this about simming nodes for years, and have been proven wrong every time.
- Finalistic_KleoSeasoned Rookie
If RNG wasn't broken, I would have been the first in at least 3 out of 6 battles. But when you're the second in 9 out of 10 battles all the time, no TIE Reaper will help. And I can't be happy for someone who's the first all the time - it won't give me any crystals. But the developers don't read this forum. Otherwise, Leviathan would have been fixed a long time ago.
We don't fix what's broken, we finish it off. - That's the developers' attitude towards their own game.
- Luxray0Rising Traveler
No, you are not guaranteed to ever go first. This is why people love coming to post about this. The mentality that on any given day you are owed by CG to go first in at least half of your fleet battles. In fact, it is the opposite. If you play fleet every day you are almost guaranteed to run into days where you never go first. And also days where you go first every time. This is proof that the RNG is not rigged.
And are you seriously arguing that my experience using the exact same ship as you is invalid? Lmao CG has not altered the RNG specifically for you to lose. They don’t care about you.
- mykdapetRising Traveler
Today? Not remotely. Once this hot, for the first week i charted my experience and it is posted somewhere on this board. My go first rate for the week was like 15%. 0/8 and 0/7 in 2 of the first 3 days. It is a bit better now, but my average go date isnt near 50% yet. The issue though is less about going first but setting a lineup you basically cannot beat without going first, that is an epic programming fail. You either are blatantly trying to force spending with this or you are terrible at game design, it is one of the two really as a fix isnt remotely difficult. When your current setup has people flat quitting the event when they dont go first, because they cannot win, you failed.
- Range1974Seasoned Traveler
Disagree. It’s not just one day. It’s worse when you lose both coin flips four or five times in row after calling the reaper and watch the turn order flip flop. I hate fleet now it and it has been favorite part of the game since its introduction
- corboabigshowRising Rookie
Eight in a row with negative coin flip. Is it normal for you?
- Finalistic_KleoSeasoned Rookie
What can he do? The developers don't want to correct the balance in mirror battles because it is beneficial for them that the fleet shards fall apart, and people lose in fleet battles on GAC and TW.
- Finalistic_KleoSeasoned Rookie
Today I was second in 5/5 battles again. When will I start going first in 5/5 battles? As I wrote above, the developers won't fix Leviathan. It doesn't bring them any profit. It's better to let the broken RNG continue to work in the game.
- DarjeloSalasSeasoned Hotshot
What is your ally code? This seems so far removed from my experience, I can’t shake the thought that you don’t have all 6 dot mods on Darth Revan.
I tracked my opening move coin toss win rate over 3 weeks and it was so obviously 50% I stopped tracking it. I win every battle when I move first, and win way more than half of the battles when I don’t by using Reaper as 1st reinforcement.
- Finalistic_KleoSeasoned Rookie
Today I went first in the 1/5 battle. The remaining 4/5 of the battle I went second. RNG is set up perfectly. There is progress. Look, I will go first 1 battle per week. The remaining 7*5-1=34 battles I will go second. And this is before the launch of GAC.
Why fix Leviathan? It is not worth it.
But it is enough to add just 1 line to Dagger's skills and then the Leviathan fleet will again be playable in mirror matches.- DarjeloSalasSeasoned Hotshot
Repeated request for ally code.
- chpMINIsoloRising Veteran
He doesn’t want to be shown what he’s doing wrong, so he’s not going to provide it
- ScreeriderSeasoned Scout
Check your mods
- DUNCAN1919Rising Vanguard
Its not mods if they win the coinflip on occasion.
Its just RNG, by its nature it is random and won't give a 50/50 win of the coinflip. OP doesn't realise that the next random event is not influenced by previous results. Its basic probability.- DarjeloSalasSeasoned Hotshot
You don’t know it’s not mods. Perhaps when the OP wins the opening coin toss they are facing someone else who doesn’t have 6 dot mods across the board.
This could all be cleared up by sharing their Ally Code, but this poster has been complaining about things for 5 years without ever being open about who they are.
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