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5 years ago

Malevolence mirror match

I don’t know whether I’m missing something but I have one other guy in my shard with a 5 star malevolence.

I have experimented with lots of different setups against him and it’s a struggle every single time.
Even if I put up a complete exact same starting lineup and same order of reinforcement.

His ultimate always goes off before mine even though I avoid killing his summoned vulture droids.

Our GG are both r7 but I have full 6e mods where as he does not.

My HT is r3 and his g12.
My sun fac r5 , his g12
Our hyenas both 4 star.

Last match I just had , his capital used special and then had 2 further capital abilities before I even got to use my special.

1.I can’t work out why his capital always goes before mine at start?
2. Always gets special off first even if the ai of his feeds more turn meter to my capital?
3. His ships being a lot lower gear lvl shred me to pieces?

I win but it’s a real mission to do so and right down to the wire. Any other fleet or matchup is a cake walk , I just don’t get it.

4 Replies

  • I don’t use HT in starting lineup. That was just one of the tests against my opponent who uses that starting lineup.

    I used it for purposes of doing a like for like mirror match. But every pilot of mine is higher geared/ reliced and better mods.

    I stated above my gearing, to reiterate my gg is r7 with full 6e mods . Bossk is r3 , sun fac is r5.......opponents are g12 at best apart from gg who is r7 but he only has 5 6e mods fitted.
  • "Baby_Yoda;c-2051830" wrote:
    Is your ship fully upgraded, or your GG?

    Also why y’all using HT? Just use hyena


    Not everyone whaled on hyena?
  • Every time you kill a vulture his cap gets turn meter. Also HT sucks with Malevolence. Run hyena vulture and spy’s. Reinforce soldier. Sun fax if you need. Hit auto
  • I feel like people are giving me advice on using the ship, guys that’s not what I’m asking.

    Read the original post, I KNOW about feeding turnmeter of killing vulture droids.

    I also kill ALL fleets and do NOT use HT in my normal starting lineup.....that was purely for testing purposes to do an exact mirror.

    What I’m trying to understand is how come the enemy malevolence always goes first ( same r7 , 2 zeta
    And then how come he always gets his special of first even if he kills more vultures than me?

    "MaricSkywalker;c-2052098" wrote:
    Every time you kill a vulture his cap gets turn meter. Also HT sucks with Malevolence. Run hyena vulture and spy’s. Reinforce soldier. Sun fax if you need. Hit auto


    Spy in starting lineup, I shall have a look into this , thought Spy’s special combined with the reinforcement ability of applying taunt on another ship was to valuable to not have as first reinforcement?
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I have experimented with lots of different setups against him and it’s a struggle every single time.
Even if I put up a complete exact same starting lineup and same order of reinforcement.

His ultimate always goes off before mine even though I avoid killing his summoned vulture droids.

Our GG are both r7 but I have full 6e mods where as he does not.

My HT is r3 and his g12.
My sun fac r5 , his g12
Our hyenas both 4 star.

Last match I just had , his capital used special and then had 2 further capital abilities before I even got to use my special.

1.I can’t work out why his capital always goes before mine at start?
2. Always gets special off first even if the ai of his feeds more turn meter to my capital?
3. His ships being a lot lower gear lvl shred me to pieces?

I win but it’s a real mission to do so and right down to the wire. Any other fleet or matchup is a cake walk , I just don’t get it.","body@stringLength":"1114","rawBody":"I don’t know whether I’m missing something but I have one other guy in my shard with a 5 star malevolence.

I have experimented with lots of different setups against him and it’s a struggle every single time.
Even if I put up a complete exact same starting lineup and same order of reinforcement.

His ultimate always goes off before mine even though I avoid killing his summoned vulture droids.

Our GG are both r7 but I have full 6e mods where as he does not.

My HT is r3 and his g12.
My sun fac r5 , his g12
Our hyenas both 4 star.

Last match I just had , his capital used special and then had 2 further capital abilities before I even got to use my special.

1.I can’t work out why his capital always goes before mine at start?
2. Always gets special off first even if the ai of his feeds more turn meter to my capital?
3. His ships being a lot lower gear lvl shred me to pieces?

I win but it’s a real mission to do so and right down to the wire. 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I used it for purposes of doing a like for like mirror match. But every pilot of mine is higher geared/ reliced and better mods.

I stated above my gearing, to reiterate my gg is r7 with full 6e mods . Bossk is r3 , sun fac is r5.......opponents are g12 at best apart from gg who is r7 but he only has 5 6e mods fitted.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-01-25T19:30:08.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-25T19:30:08.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3648665/message:3648666","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:79873":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:79873","uid":79873,"login":"JonnySiniwali","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-10-15T01:51:06.000+01:00","confirmEmailStatus":null,"registrationAccessLevel":null,"ssoRegistrationFields":[]},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg"},"rank":null,"messagesCount":0,"kudosGivenCount":183,"kudosReceivedCount":177,"kudosWeight":1,"ssoId":null,"followersCount":null,"solutionsCount":0,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:79873"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3648667":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3648667","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3648667":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:79873"},"id":"message:3648667","revisionNum":1,"uid":3648667,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3648665"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3648665"},"subject":"Re: Malevolence mirror match","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3648667"},"body":"
\"Baby_Yoda;c-2051830\" wrote:
Is your ship fully upgraded, or your GG?

Also why y’all using HT? Just use hyena


Not everyone whaled on hyena?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"149","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-01-25T21:11:40.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-25T21:11:40.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3648665/message:3648667","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":44,"name":"Rising Newcomer","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:20815":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:20815","uid":20815,"login":"bargeek13","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-12-13T19:28:04.000Z","confirmEmailStatus":null,"registrationAccessLevel":null,"ssoRegistrationFields":[]},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"messagesCount":2,"kudosGivenCount":77,"kudosReceivedCount":68,"kudosWeight":1,"ssoId":null,"followersCount":null,"solutionsCount":0,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:20815"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3648668":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3648668","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3648668":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:20815"},"id":"message:3648668","revisionNum":1,"uid":3648668,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3648665"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3648665"},"subject":"Re: Malevolence mirror match","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3648668"},"body":"Every time you kill a vulture his cap gets turn meter. Also HT sucks with Malevolence. Run hyena vulture and spy’s. Reinforce soldier. Sun fax if you need. Hit auto","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"166","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-01-26T04:03:02.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-26T04:03:02.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3648665/message:3648668","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3648669":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3648669","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3648669":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:74925"},"id":"message:3648669","revisionNum":1,"uid":3648669,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3648665"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3648665"},"subject":"Re: Malevolence mirror match","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3648669"},"body":"I feel like people are giving me advice on using the ship, guys that’s not what I’m asking.

Read the original post, I KNOW about feeding turnmeter of killing vulture droids.

I also kill ALL fleets and do NOT use HT in my normal starting lineup.....that was purely for testing purposes to do an exact mirror.

What I’m trying to understand is how come the enemy malevolence always goes first ( same r7 , 2 zeta
And then how come he always gets his special of first even if he kills more vultures than me?

\"MaricSkywalker;c-2052098\" wrote:
Every time you kill a vulture his cap gets turn meter. Also HT sucks with Malevolence. Run hyena vulture and spy’s. Reinforce soldier. Sun fax if you need. Hit auto


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