Mandalorian S2:E6 Chat (SPOILERS)
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"DarthVeritlyn;c-2200018" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2199938" wrote:
"CoSrenegade;c-2199711" wrote:
"Chucko_marek;c-2199705" wrote:
"CoSrenegade;c-2199696" wrote:
"DarthVeritlyn;c-2199694" wrote:
Boba and Jango officially Mandalorians again, so epic!!!
maybe he just said that to calm Mando down .... but as it seems his armor is made out of Beskar and not durasteele.
But the genealogy hologram in his suit is proof of Jango being a foundling.
could you read it?
whatever your answer is, CG_SBCrumb has a new puzzle :#
So both Fetts are Mandalorian. Awesome!
Is the mandalorian tag not a dream anymore?"Ultra;c-2200017" wrote:
"Ltswb1;c-2199971" wrote:
9/10
Great fan service
Dialogue,story and action left a little to be desired. Several episodes have felt clunky. They just don’t flow well. Examples, Bobas’ rocket magically reappearing everytime it’s needed, Mando doing and saying exactly the same thing over and over with the same result while trying to get the child off the rock. Mando’s “conversations” with Grogu are a little too awkward and foreshadowy. Stormtroopers that magically spawn in groups of 15 instead of attacking all at once. Felt like they only still only have 15 suits of armor and are making do. Stormtroopers that attack with zero sense of military training. Continuing to fire a blaster at a Boulder rolling towards you until it kills you. ?♂️ What exactly was that blaster supposed to do against a boulder? He couldn’t just step to the left and get out of the way?
I want to really like it, but if it didn’t have all the fan service, I’d probably give it a 5/10
Ever heard of suspension of disbelief?
I have. In fact I’ve mentioned it in other episode threads. It’s the director’s responsibility to create something that allows suspension of disbelief. It’s not the viewer’s responsibility to believe any junk they throw on the screen. It has to be close enough to believable or capable of directing your attention in a certain way to allow you to believe what’s going on is possible. They have been failing at that lately."NasRegal;c-2200373" wrote:
So, is no one gonna talk about whats happens when Boba finds out the child is force sensitive?
Mace kills Jango.
Boba witnesses this and swears vengeance on the Jedi.
Boba finds out the child is a "Jedi"
Boba tries to convince Mando to kill his beloved "son"
And I can't wait to see how that plays out ?
These next few episodes are going to be explosive, literally.
I doubt Boba will kill a baby. He has a code where he doesn't hurt kids after all"Kyno;c-2199939" wrote:
Also, so much for getting the razor Crest in game......
We got Kuiil after he died in season 1"DarthVeritlyn;c-2199857" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2199835" wrote:
"DarthVeritlyn;c-2199694" wrote:
Boba and Jango officially Mandalorians again, so epic!!!
I'm not sure how being a mandalorian works, but they said Jango was a foundling
Boba was the son of a foundling so i'm not sure if that makes him a mando by birthright
I think he did say he's not one and hasn't taken any oaths
Jango, for sure, is one
With how much of a stickler Din is with beskar I don't think he would have allowed Boba to keep the armor unless he considers him a Mando by birthright
This is the way.- So here are the predictions I made for ep5-6 before they came out (but after seeing 1-4):
Ep5: Act 1, questing for Ahsoka. Act 2, learning things with/from Ahsoka, Act 3: the attack by Gideon.
Ep 6: On the run the whole episode. At first they think that he's more powerful/ influential/ knowledgeable than he is. Later they realize he doesn't have force powers & he doesn't have people everywhere. He's just tracking them. They disable the tracking device and/or slip it onto someone else's ship.
===> Unforeseen twist: Gideon manages to kidnap BY or, if not, manages to put huge pressure on the Mandalorian. Enough pressure that Mando has to seriously consider actually giving them the child. Maybe he's talking about killing everyone on Navarro or something. In any case, either he gets The Child or he acquires Unspeakable Leverage.
So let's see how I did. Episode 5:
1. They did quest for Ahsoka, although that was easier than I thought it would be since the primary conflict of the episode turned out not to involve Mando, but Ahsoka vs. the Administrator.
2. Is, of course, dead on, though you might think that was a bit vague.
3. Yes, there was a final fight, but I got this one wrong: the attack was not ordered, initiated, or led by Gideon.
So two right, one wrong, although I do think I predicted the overall structure of the episode, what I fundamentally missed was that Ahsoka's character was not hanging out on the planet, but involved in her ow quest and only on the planet long enough to kick so booty & take a name. In my defense, it seems weird that Bo Katan would think she knew where Ahsoka was, since Ahsoka is on a moving quest. Little bit of misdirection there.
Okay, now Episode 6:
1. Yep, they were on the run the whole episode. Baby Yoda sits on his rock while, unbeknownst to them Gideon is tracking them. Then as soon as Baby Yoda starts his thing it's all action. Got this one completely right.
2. The fear that Gideon has force powers: Wrong.
3. The realization that he's tracking them technologically: Wrong.
4. The tracker being destroyed/defeated: Yes! I thought they would have to realize Gideon was tracking them in order to defeat the tracker, but Gideon destroyed the ship utterly, so no more tracking worries in the future.
5. The conclusion is that Baby Yoda gets kidnapped: This was my most important prediction & is correct again.
Again, I had much of the narrative structure predicted accurately, but failed to anticipate something important. In Ep5 it was that Ahsoka wasn't stationary, but involved in her own quest. In Ep 6 it was that Boba would show up, and that the long-running combat of the episode would switch antagonists half way through. I had no reason to think the long-running fight would be against any one other than Gideon's forces. But, reason to think that way or not, it was my prediction & the failure lies on me.
Also, though it makes sense that Gideon wouldn't care much about Mando, it did surprise me that he would rather destroy Mando's ship than keep tabs on it. He knew Mando showed extraordinary devotion to Baby Yoda. Why would Mando give up just because he had to switch ships? Wouldn't it be better to know where Mando was at all times?
Anyway, that bit is interesting.
Ep 7 I'm sticking to my earlier predictions - they gather allies, make plans in a safe space for going out & getting Yoda back, then attack Gideon. At the end of the episode they realize their plan is doomed to failure (which means they'll have to go off-plan, not that they give up).
The thing that might trip all that up is if the initial prison break takes a large part of the episode. There might not be time to attack Gideon at the end of Ep7. We'll see.
So far the narrative structure is dead on what I thought, though their have been some significant surprises (and thus errors in my predictions). Will the show drift further & further from my predictions? Well, Ep6 wasn't further from my predictions than Ep5, possibly even closer, but the additional possibility that a Jedi might show up out of nowhere does make that a real possibility.
Curiouser & curiouser. - Seedy don’t ping me on your replies
"NasRegal;c-2200373" wrote:
So, is no one gonna talk about whats happens when Boba finds out the child is force sensitive?
Mace kills Jango.
Boba witnesses this and swears vengeance on the Jedi.
Boba finds out the child is a "Jedi"
Boba tries to convince Mando to kill his beloved "son"
And I can't wait to see how that plays out ?
These next few episodes are going to be explosive, literally.
But wasn't Boba only obsessed with killing Windu? All other jedi who go in the way were collateral damage. The child is a foundling, so would be protected and Boba did promise to help get him back."Nauros;c-2200634" wrote:
"Chucko_marek;c-2200629" wrote:
"NasRegal;c-2200373" wrote:
So, is no one gonna talk about whats happens when Boba finds out the child is force sensitive?
Mace kills Jango.
Boba witnesses this and swears vengeance on the Jedi.
Boba finds out the child is a "Jedi"
Boba tries to convince Mando to kill his beloved "son"
And I can't wait to see how that plays out ?
These next few episodes are going to be explosive, literally.
But wasn't Boba only obsessed with killing Windu? All other jedi who go in the way were collateral damage. The child is a foundling, so would be protected and Boba did promise to help get him back.
Oh, there will be fun times if the Jedi that shows up at the end turns out to be Windu...
The Childs first words: "Awkward, this is.""HKFactory;c-2200669" wrote:
I now want to see a flashback that shows how Boba Fett lived and what he was doing for the last several years.
There may be a Boba spin off. Not sure I would like a season on it, but an episode or two would be ok.- @Chucko_marek
There may be a Boba spin off. Not sure I would like a season on it, but an episode or two would be ok.
There are lots of articles about the plans for Star Wars shows on Disney+.
While they obviously kick around ideas long before something gets into "planning" stage, not even everything that gets into planning stage ends up getting made, and so if it's not in the planning stage it definitely isn't getting made anytime soon. So what are they planning? Is a Boba series among the plans? Spoiler: Boba series is not currently on the table. These are in the planning stages, with some in "pre-production" meaning that they've actually decided for sure to go ahead with the project at least far enough to get a script & shoot some scenes & then see what the first episode looks like. If it's is pre-production, that means that there will be footage of some kind, but unless they're happy with it, that still doesn't guarantee any polished/finished full episodes that might get leaked 10 years from now as an "unaired pilot", much less a series that actually gets released to the public as an actual show that they actually promote. "In production" will only happen if they like the initial script, like the initial footage & have decided to produce whole, finished episodes (but even then they could decide not to air them).
The distinction between planning & pre-production & production in mind, let's look at the 4 shows on the Disney+ radar:
Rogue One: Cassian's Magical Mystery Tour (name may not be final):SpoilerThis is a series about Cassian Andor's adventures being a secret agent behind the lines, exploring all the things he did that later made him tell Jyn that his hands weren't clean and that he had done horrible things in the name of the rebellion & so he had to fight to the end and achieve something good so that he can die feeling like all the bad things were ultimately worth it in the end.
This show will take place LONG before the events of Rogue 1 so that if the series is good & popular they can do multiple seasons without conflicting with the events of the movie.
As you know, Rogue 1 takes place before Boba got thrown into the Sarlacc pit, so no possibility of Boba's post Sarlacc life being explored here.
Obi-Wan: Middle Aged BenSpoilerThe adventures of Obi-Wan after the Revenge of the Sith & before A New Hope. This is going to take place sometime near the time-window of the Cassian adventures, but probably even earlier. Ewan McGregor will return to star in this series, which is awesome, but since he doesn't look like Alec Guiness, they're going to have to keep him significantly younger to make sure they're time for Kenobi to believably age (and get affected by the whether, I suppose) on Tatooine. As a result, Boba would probably be a teenager during this series. No chance for a Boba appearance here, though a young Ahsoka could show up. I wonder if the makeup & costuming could make her appear young enough for Rosario to portray her in this series?
So, again, no Boba spin off - or at least none that would explain surviving the Sarlacc.
The Bad BatchSpoilerA show following the adventures of the clone troopers known as "The Bad Batch". This would take place immediately after the Clone Wars ended (which end when Palp reveals himself, Order 66 occurs, and the Empire begins). We don't know what exactly they'll be doing, but Merc'ing, somewhere, somehow.
Again, this is the 3rd of these to happen before A New Hope, so still no chance of Boba's Sarlacc survival being explained.
Untitled, Mysterious "Female Lead" series :cough: Ahsoka :cough:SpoilerAs yet we know tragically little about this show. It's been reported by Variety. Now, Variety has a website, but also a big-name magazine. They're not some basement rumor mill. So I'm inclined to believe them. There's also something else as well: Rosario Dawson was given a big contract to play Ahsoka, but she's not being used much at all in The Mandalorian. As a result, I expect that this is an Ahsoka series. They have a "show runner" who is the person who makes final decisions about directors & actors & such, and that's not necessary until pre-production, so they're fairly serious about this series despite how little we know about it. From Variety:Details of the exact plot of the series are being kept under wraps, but sources say it will be a female-centric series that takes place in a different part of the “Star Wars” timeline than other projects.
That's not a lot of information, but given the big Ahsoka contract for Dawson and the fact that all 3 of the other series take place after the end of the prequels and before A New Hope, "a different part of the SW timeline" would be more "end of the New Republic & rise of the resistance" just before The Force Awakens or maybe "the rise of the New Republic" which would be just after The Return of the Jedi. Right after ROTJ is, of course, the timeline we need, but that's only a guess, not confirmed, and only 1/2 of a 2 part guess, which makes it only 50% likely, and that guess itself is dependent on another series of guesses: that this is an Ahsoka series, that the version of Ahsoka we see will be played by Rosario Dawson, & that Dawson's contract means Ahsoka can't be too much older or younger than we see her in The Mandalorian, which takes place 8-10 years after Yavin, which means just a few years after Endor.
Of course the problem with the "Fall of the Empire/rise of the Republic" timeline guess is that they've specifically sad that the story takes place in a part of the timeline unexplored in other parts of Star Wars. We have ROTJ. We have The Mandalorian. Saying that the post-ROTJ timeframe is "unexplored" is dependent on whether you see The Mandalorian as exploring that. But since there are still Imperial cruisers & Moffs & Admirals, I'm not sure how "unexplored" this is. Finally, her quest for Thrawn is interesting, but in the new series would the studio be better off using that as foreshadowing that existed in Ahsoka's past? or using that as a point in Ahsoka's future towards which the new series moves? I think the first. If that moment existed in Ahsoka's future, then we would know that Ahsoka could never be killed in her own series. Although you do know that the title character won't be killed mid-season, any season finale could kill the character as a way to end the show .. unless you've already had the character appear later in the timeline. So post-ROTJ is a guess, but I don't think it's the best guess.
So this is the only show that might maybe possibly explain Boba's survival and his new disaffection for the Empire. Hard to say if it will, of course, but I'm leaning against it.
In sum, I think they might be kicking around ideas for shows that could explain the gap in Boba's timeline, but I don't see any upcoming spin-off that could do it. If they bother to explain it at all, it will merely be Boba talking to Mando about his past during this show, right now.
