Practically guarantee Jyn

"leef;797536" wrote:

"Haruk;81578" wrote:
We used to do this during Marvel's Avengers Alliance on Facebook, when during pvp seasons, you could unlock new heroes by getting enough lockboxes:

Set an insanely weak defense. This will allow those on offense to generally win, and earn a decently high rank. Those who want top tier rankings can still get there via hardcore, nonstop fights with beastly teams, but this tactic lets even those who are only average still end up with a lot of shards, if not the guaranteed unlock of Jyn.

The amount of players that unlock Jyn will remain the same, regardless of how many points everyone can acquire. So setting a weak defence only makes the chance you're getting Jyn smaller, since more players will be able to acquire alot of points.

"WrathofCaedus;797446" wrote:
While I don't agree this would work, it doesn't really make sense that ppl set the toughest D possible as they actually gain nothing from defense wins. If we gained the points that others lost it would make sense to set tough D. Rank is based on points, unlike arena D.

It doesn't make sense to not set your strongest defense possible.

It makes no difference honestly.

"WrathofCaedus;797551" wrote:

"leef;797536" wrote:

"Haruk;81578" wrote:
We used to do this during Marvel's Avengers Alliance on Facebook, when during pvp seasons, you could unlock new heroes by getting enough lockboxes:

Set an insanely weak defense. This will allow those on offense to generally win, and earn a decently high rank. Those who want top tier rankings can still get there via hardcore, nonstop fights with beastly teams, but this tactic lets even those who are only average still end up with a lot of shards, if not the guaranteed unlock of Jyn.

The amount of players that unlock Jyn will remain the same, regardless of how many points everyone can acquire. So setting a weak defence only makes the chance you're getting Jyn smaller, since more players will be able to acquire alot of points.

"WrathofCaedus;797446" wrote:
While I don't agree this would work, it doesn't really make sense that ppl set the toughest D possible as they actually gain nothing from defense wins. If we gained the points that others lost it would make sense to set tough D. Rank is based on points, unlike arena D.

It doesn't make sense to not set your strongest defense possible.

It makes no difference honestly.

Not as long as you float around the nether regions of your shard. However, at the top, every fight you can do without having to refresh your A-squad is a "free" fight. Time is still the biggest investment (and not ally points), and it doesn't help with that, but it definitely means you are giving your "competitors" an ally point advantage by putting in a weak defensive squad.

"WrathofCaedus;797551" wrote:

"leef;797536" wrote:

"Haruk;81578" wrote:
We used to do this during Marvel's Avengers Alliance on Facebook, when during pvp seasons, you could unlock new heroes by getting enough lockboxes:

Set an insanely weak defense. This will allow those on offense to generally win, and earn a decently high rank. Those who want top tier rankings can still get there via hardcore, nonstop fights with beastly teams, but this tactic lets even those who are only average still end up with a lot of shards, if not the guaranteed unlock of Jyn.

The amount of players that unlock Jyn will remain the same, regardless of how many points everyone can acquire. So setting a weak defence only makes the chance you're getting Jyn smaller, since more players will be able to acquire alot of points.

"WrathofCaedus;797446" wrote:
While I don't agree this would work, it doesn't really make sense that ppl set the toughest D possible as they actually gain nothing from defense wins. If we gained the points that others lost it would make sense to set tough D. Rank is based on points, unlike arena D.

It doesn't make sense to not set your strongest defense possible.

It makes no difference honestly.

The difference is that it has no downside to set your strongest defence possible, but setting a weak defence does. So why would you set a weak def team, even if the downside is very, very small?
It may not even be noticable if a few players set a weak defence, most certainly not noticable if those players aren't serious contenders for the top200. But when alot of players are going to set weak defences (as some forum members are suggesting) the tournaments will inevitably become more time consuming. Furthermore, players who don't stand a chance normally, because their A-team isn't able to beat full meta teams, are able to compete for the top ranks, making it unnecessarily harder for players who actually can actually beat those full meta teams.
So you're simply wrong by saying that it doesn't make a difference. But I agree that it's very possible to rank high with a weak defence team, probably without even noticing the negative effects of said weak def team, but that doesn't mean it doesn't make a difference.

"sneeekypants;797535" wrote:
Clearly the OP hasn't done a tourney here. You get prizes based on rank, not points tiers.

@Haruk, as sneeekypants said the prizes you get from a SW:GoH tourney is not based on points, as it was in M:AA (still feeling nostalgic about it).
As it is based on rank your strategy would have no benefit whatsoever. :)

It's a trap!
- AA

Ah another of those threads. A lot of people with understanding issues.

@Winstar - LOL good image :smile:

For post
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/therapy.gif

What Haruk proposed made sense if the tourney's prizes were given based on points, as was the case in "Marvel : Avengers Alliance".
I think this was made clear in a couple of previous posts.
I guess sarcasm and being obtuse is your way to welcome a new member to the forum.

"Kcm;797829" wrote:
There is no valid argument to set a weak defense in a tournament. Case closed.

This has already been established, Kcm.
Haruk mistakenly thought that the tourney worked like the M:AA ones, based on targets to reach (i.e, score more than x points to unlock prize y etc etc...).
So if everybody was putting weak teams in defense more players would be able to accumulate the number of points needed to unlock the big prize (Jyn is this case).

"WrathofCaedus;797551" wrote:

"leef;797536" wrote:

"Haruk;81578" wrote:
We used to do this during Marvel's Avengers Alliance on Facebook, when during pvp seasons, you could unlock new heroes by getting enough lockboxes:

Set an insanely weak defense. This will allow those on offense to generally win, and earn a decently high rank. Those who want top tier rankings can still get there via hardcore, nonstop fights with beastly teams, but this tactic lets even those who are only average still end up with a lot of shards, if not the guaranteed unlock of Jyn.

The amount of players that unlock Jyn will remain the same, regardless of how many points everyone can acquire. So setting a weak defence only makes the chance you're getting Jyn smaller, since more players will be able to acquire alot of points.

"WrathofCaedus;797446" wrote:
While I don't agree this would work, it doesn't really make sense that ppl set the toughest D possible as they actually gain nothing from defense wins. If we gained the points that others lost it would make sense to set tough D. Rank is based on points, unlike arena D.

It doesn't make sense to not set your strongest defense possible.

It makes no difference honestly.

Actually it does make sense. If you set a strong defense, your opponents have less opportunity to get max points in the battle. This helps preserve your rank as you're not "losing" as many points per battle. But please, continue to set your weak squads. It helps me out