Back story, Credit crunch was horrendous,- first GW rewards increased, IMO this was done to help players on their way up.- next came the major fix, credit heist. One tweak later and it seems to be doing the job for most players.Now for my speculation:They are using a similar model to fix the gear crunch.- gear added to the ship store, bandaid.- the low lvl gear added to higher tiers, this is a nice move and really helps people building up and the long term problem of low gear needed when we get new toons.- IMO, we will be seeing a long term fix to the other gear issues: - gear heist - raid reward adjustment - other.....Thought??Could this be th beginning of some long term plan? With more toons coming at a faster pace are they trying to help us gearing at a relative rate?

I hope your speculation is correct! They have implemented some good changes and I'm ready to see which direction things go from here. I started playing 10/16 and within the last week of changes the game has gotten x10 better imo.

I can only hope so but I think gear is where a really huge part of the money is made. If we do see it then I reckon they will give us something like cuffs, and we will see g10-11 stay scarce and then another gear level soon.The last part of what you say is interesting though. We are seeing toons come faster than before and more characters in the game total, as well as more factions becoming fun, so more gear is only natural. I don't know if we will see toons at quite this pace. I think rebels has been done because this season is ending, so get them out while it's still going. After that who knows maybe back to same before? I'd guess 2/3 a month average as well as reworks.

"Cardiff0;943849" wrote:I can only hope so but I think gear is where a really huge part of the money is made. If we do see it then I reckon they will give us something like cuffs, and we will see g10-11 stay scarce and then another gear level soon.The last part of what you say is interesting though. We are seeing toons come faster than before and more characters in the game total, as well as more factions becoming fun, so more gear is only natural. I don't know if we will see toons at quite this pace. I think rebels has been done because this season is ending, so get them out while it's still going. After that who knows maybe back to same before? I'd guess 2/3 a month average as well as reworks.With the release cadence as described, they could keep up the monthly release of 2-3.Yeah, that's why I said relative pase. So over all not an increase unless you limit your roster.This could also follow with the increased cost of new toon, with a "decreased" revenue from gear. But again all speculation

Seriously if they fix these two things the game would be perfect imo. and that's including the absurd crystal prices:1) giving us tokens from raids to buy gear equivalent to the amount we would have got for our raid ranking but letting us choose what pieces we get. This also removes the problem of getting challenge gear from raids too as you'll only get challenge gear if you buy it2) a gear heist similar to credit heist. This could even be random like raid reward currently are but would be better to reward much needed pieces such as cuffs guns carbanti and holo projectors.

"SubzeeeDon;943903" wrote:Seriously if they fix these two things the game would be perfect imo. and that's including the absurd crystal prices:1) giving us tokens from raids to buy gear equivalent to the amount we would have got for our raid ranking but letting us choose what pieces we get. This also removes the problem of getting challenge gear from raids too as you'll only get challenge gear if you buy it2) a gear heist similar to credit heist. This could even be random like raid reward currently are but would be better to reward much needed pieces such as cuffs guns carbanti and holo projectors.+1, especially the raid idea, nothing worse than getting challenge gear you already have tons of for a raid reward.

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swgohplayer
8 years ago
I hope your speculation is correct! They have implemented some good changes and I'm ready to see which direction things go from here. I started playing 10/16 and within the last week of changes the game has gotten x10 better imo.
noobiestrikesba
8 years ago
I can only hope so but I think gear is where a really huge part of the money is made. If we do see it then I reckon they will give us something like cuffs, and we will see g10-11 stay scarce and then another gear level soon.

The last part of what you say is interesting though. We are seeing toons come faster than before and more characters in the game total, as well as more factions becoming fun, so more gear is only natural. I don't know if we will see toons at quite this pace. I think rebels has been done because this season is ending, so get them out while it's still going. After that who knows maybe back to same before? I'd guess 2/3 a month average as well as reworks.
NyKynoe
8 years ago
"Cardiff0;943849" wrote:
I can only hope so but I think gear is where a really huge part of the money is made. If we do see it then I reckon they will give us something like cuffs, and we will see g10-11 stay scarce and then another gear level soon.

The last part of what you say is interesting though. We are seeing toons come faster than before and more characters in the game total, as well as more factions becoming fun, so more gear is only natural. I don't know if we will see toons at quite this pace. I think rebels has been done because this season is ending, so get them out while it's still going. After that who knows maybe back to same before? I'd guess 2/3 a month average as well as reworks.

With the release cadence as described, they could keep up the monthly release of 2-3.

Yeah, that's why I said relative pase. So over all not an increase unless you limit your roster.

This could also follow with the increased cost of new toon, with a "decreased" revenue from gear. But again all speculation
subzeeeDon
8 years ago
Seriously if they fix these two things the game would be perfect imo. and that's including the absurd crystal prices:
1) giving us tokens from raids to buy gear equivalent to the amount we would have got for our raid ranking but letting us choose what pieces we get. This also removes the problem of getting challenge gear from raids too as you'll only get challenge gear if you buy it
2) a gear heist similar to credit heist. This could even be random like raid reward currently are but would be better to reward much needed pieces such as cuffs guns carbanti and holo projectors.
swgohplayer
8 years ago
"SubzeeeDon;943903" wrote:
Seriously if they fix these two things the game would be perfect imo. and that's including the absurd crystal prices:
1) giving us tokens from raids to buy gear equivalent to the amount we would have got for our raid ranking but letting us choose what pieces we get. This also removes the problem of getting challenge gear from raids too as you'll only get challenge gear if you buy it
2) a gear heist similar to credit heist. This could even be random like raid reward currently are but would be better to reward much needed pieces such as cuffs guns carbanti and holo projectors.

+1, especially the raid idea, nothing worse than getting challenge gear you already have tons of for a raid reward.
subzeeeDon
8 years ago
"Aero;943946" wrote:
I wouldn't get your hopes up. The end goal is to get you to spend money, not get you to max everything. The current list of limiting factors are: training droids, credits, shards, ability mats, mods, and gear.

One of these needs to be the money grab. If too many are money grabs then it drives people away. It is set up pretty good now. Training droids are easy never think about it, credits are readily available but still have to manage it, shards (besides new characters) are obtainable at a good rate of progression, ability mats can't be purchased for the most part and make the game feel more fair, mods are the total RNG factor for gamblers, and gear is your money grab.

Mods are enough of a money grab lol. Tbh I would actually be more impressed if they left gear as it is, as I agree there needs to some form of paywall other then new chatacters to get people to pay. But mods need a major fix
subzeeeDon
8 years ago
"Aero;943971" wrote:
I don't have any charts, but I would bet they make more money from gear than mods.

I'm just trying to be realistic. Of course I'd like more gear.

We can always hope lol

Rebellions are built on hope
imba-palad407
8 years ago
They added all the low gear only to bring out the new toons with the need of horendous amount of these gear :D

We need also more possibility to get stun guns & cuffs.
NicWester
8 years ago
"SubzeeeDon;943952" wrote:
"Aero;943946" wrote:
I wouldn't get your hopes up. The end goal is to get you to spend money, not get you to max everything. The current list of limiting factors are: training droids, credits, shards, ability mats, mods, and gear.

One of these needs to be the money grab. If too many are money grabs then it drives people away. It is set up pretty good now. Training droids are easy never think about it, credits are readily available but still have to manage it, shards (besides new characters) are obtainable at a good rate of progression, ability mats can't be purchased for the most part and make the game feel more fair, mods are the total RNG factor for gamblers, and gear is your money grab.

Mods are enough of a money grab lol. Tbh I would actually be more impressed if they left gear as it is, as I agree there needs to some form of paywall other then new chatacters to get people to pay. But mods need a major fix

I haven't spent dime one on mods and I've got several fully-modded teams. I don't think mods are quite the cash-cow you rate them as.
NyKynoe
8 years ago
"Aero;943946" wrote:
I wouldn't get your hopes up. The end goal is to get you to spend money, not get you to max everything. The current list of limiting factors are: training droids, credits, shards, ability mats, mods, and gear.

One of these needs to be the money grab. If too many are money grabs then it drives people away. It is set up pretty good now. Training droids are easy never think about it, credits are readily available but still have to manage it, shards (besides new characters) are obtainable at a good rate of progression, ability mats can't be purchased for the most part and make the game feel more fair, mods are the total RNG factor for gamblers, and gear is your money grab.

Hope for the best, expect the worst. I agree.

But much like the meta shift, they could be working out different ways to bring in income, if they increase our toon count at the current rate for the next year, they will choke off more points of income as it seems more and more impossible for even paying players to keep up.

The way I look at it, kraken s pay while they are interested l, cost is not an object.

Whales do have a budget and manage it with what is interesting, don't always need to buy new toons, but will when it suits them.

P2p, larger number that will spend, but can be squeezed out if they keep increasing cost.

If they raise the cost ("if" haha) of a 7* toon. They can loosen the choke on gear, it brings more P2P in and they will probably spend the same amount, because they only allowed us to keep the same rate of gearing, but increased the number of toons. This allows them to shift the same income stream to different areas it's better for business.

This shift can be seen by the "low" cost to get one more star on a new toon...

Again all speculation, but hoping this is some change working through....Probably wrong.