SLKR ultimate loop

"Kyno;c-2142268" wrote:

"lucasvcdias;c-2142263" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2142257" wrote:
is it really a loop though?

if he goes into ultimate at full charge, yes he can get up to 1 charge before it ends, but you can kill most if not all of his team. then he can go ultimate for 1 charge and that is where the loop ends. he can't build up enough charge to go ultimate again right after that.

"Kyno;c-2142257" wrote:
is it really a loop though?

if he goes into ultimate at full charge, yes he can get up to 1 charge before it ends, but you can kill most if not all of his team. then he can go ultimate for 1 charge and that is where the loop ends. he can't build up enough charge to go ultimate again right after that.

To me (and others, it seems) it is a form of loop. He spends a long time invincible and can chain ultimates, what Rey, for instance, cant do. Rey does not charge her ultimate while her team is taking 1 damage, but kylo charges his while he is invincible. The ultimate is a special and very unique ability. It should not recharge until the one in use is finished.

he can double up on his ultimate, which can be prevented or mitigated with strategy. Rey protects her whole team, Kylo doesn't. there are many differences in their ultimates.

Rey and her team are critted during so called protection and this increases his ulti. Example https://youtu.be/WUETbWPAX50

"chmoAr0ufif0u;c-2142273" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2142268" wrote:

"lucasvcdias;c-2142263" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2142257" wrote:
is it really a loop though?

if he goes into ultimate at full charge, yes he can get up to 1 charge before it ends, but you can kill most if not all of his team. then he can go ultimate for 1 charge and that is where the loop ends. he can't build up enough charge to go ultimate again right after that.

"Kyno;c-2142257" wrote:
is it really a loop though?

if he goes into ultimate at full charge, yes he can get up to 1 charge before it ends, but you can kill most if not all of his team. then he can go ultimate for 1 charge and that is where the loop ends. he can't build up enough charge to go ultimate again right after that.

To me (and others, it seems) it is a form of loop. He spends a long time invincible and can chain ultimates, what Rey, for instance, cant do. Rey does not charge her ultimate while her team is taking 1 damage, but kylo charges his while he is invincible. The ultimate is a special and very unique ability. It should not recharge until the one in use is finished.

he can double up on his ultimate, which can be prevented or mitigated with strategy. Rey protects her whole team, Kylo doesn't. there are many differences in their ultimates.

Rey and her team are critted during so called protection and this increases his ulti. Example https://youtu.be/WUETbWPAX50

Correct, I never said it didn't, but they take 1 damage. Kylos team has nothing protecting them at all during his ultimate. again many differences between the 2...

I never noticed before, but Kylo can crit even against crit immunity?

"TVF;c-2142285" wrote:
I never noticed before, but Kylo can crit even against crit immunity?

He can't, but Stasis Strike will dispel any buffs before it hits, so it still crits even if they have CI.

Where's that? I wouldn't be surprised, but i went through the video, couldn't find something suspicious.

"which can be prevented or mitigated with strategy"
I can't see how you prevent this, wanna elaborate? Without using all the prev meta.

"TVF;c-2142285" wrote:
I never noticed before, but Kylo can crit even against crit immunity?

Because Stasis Strike applies an undispellable&unpreventable Stun it has been suggested Rey's lifeblood should likewise apply an undispellable&unpreventable Crit Immunity. This would bring back "whether to risk it or not" decisions to Kylos as was originally advertised. As is there is no such thing when Kylo immediately enters the ultimate stance at full charge.

On topic, Kylo is working as intended and there are already 2 other threads on Rey vs. Kylo balance.

"Jarvind;c-2142287" wrote:

"TVF;c-2142285" wrote:
I never noticed before, but Kylo can crit even against crit immunity?

He can't, but Stasis Strike will dispel any buffs before it hits, so it still crits even if they have CI.

That makes sense, thanks. However....

"str2019;c-2142301" wrote:

"TVF;c-2142285" wrote:
I never noticed before, but Kylo can crit even against crit immunity?

Because Stasis Strike applies an undispellable&unpreventable Stun it has been suggested Rey's lifeblood should likewise apply an undispellable&unpreventable Crit Immunity.

What does this have to do with what I asked?

"str2019;c-2142301" wrote:

"TVF;c-2142285" wrote:
I never noticed before, but Kylo can crit even against crit immunity?

On topic, Kylo is working as intended and there are already 2 other threads on Rey vs. Kylo balance.

And this one has to do with his back to back ultimate.
What are you? Forum police?

"Kyno;c-2142283" wrote:

"chmoAr0ufif0u;c-2142273" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2142268" wrote:

"lucasvcdias;c-2142263" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2142257" wrote:
is it really a loop though?

if he goes into ultimate at full charge, yes he can get up to 1 charge before it ends, but you can kill most if not all of his team. then he can go ultimate for 1 charge and that is where the loop ends. he can't build up enough charge to go ultimate again right after that.

"Kyno;c-2142257" wrote:
is it really a loop though?

if he goes into ultimate at full charge, yes he can get up to 1 charge before it ends, but you can kill most if not all of his team. then he can go ultimate for 1 charge and that is where the loop ends. he can't build up enough charge to go ultimate again right after that.

To me (and others, it seems) it is a form of loop. He spends a long time invincible and can chain ultimates, what Rey, for instance, cant do. Rey does not charge her ultimate while her team is taking 1 damage, but kylo charges his while he is invincible. The ultimate is a special and very unique ability. It should not recharge until the one in use is finished.

he can double up on his ultimate, which can be prevented or mitigated with strategy. Rey protects her whole team, Kylo doesn't. there are many differences in their ultimates.

Rey and her team are critted during so called protection and this increases his ulti. Example https://youtu.be/WUETbWPAX50

Correct, I never said it didn't, but they take 1 damage. Kylos team has nothing protecting them at all during his ultimate. again many differences between the 2...

It doesn't matter if you can kill all his pals if he can destroy all your team next (if your team is not already dead. Rey can't protect anything if kylo oneshot them before, no inmunity clicks). A loss in arena is a loss every way you look at it.


We can look too why Kylo hits when he enters ultimate and each turn. While Rey does nothing when he enters ultimate. You can prevent one hit from kylo using ultimate but not both while he can be totally immune to you.
Or why you can't mark Kylo but you can mark Rey.


Btw, why bother playing GAC now? Kylo players can set a full FO setup against which I'd need to break 4 setups to kill it. I can set Rey with full resistance and he can kill it with Vader. Nice. Really looking forward to playing it now.

"TVF;c-2142253" wrote:
Kill his friends faster. He can't charge his ult much without help.

As an SLKR owner, this is what the AI does every time against my team. It’s very successful. If I don’t time my ultimate(s) properly, I lose to Rey.