So why have I just been Relegated

"SerWulfgar;c-2352231" wrote:
I would just wanna point out that they are altering the MM system after 4 months - which was barely enough to iterate that uncivilised, 10th century caveman idea of the very first, GP based ranking.

At some point you need to ask the question: do those guys over there believe for a second that what they create is actually good in any sense?

They have made zero changes to MM.

"InyakSolomon88;c-2352228" wrote:
It'd be nice if CG could, you know, actually communicate properly. They snuck in this rather massive change with no explanation as to why.

What's so massive about the change? Our match-ups are unaffected and our rewards more or less remain the same over time since rewards change both when promoted and when demoted mid-GA.

"StarSon;c-2352233" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352231" wrote:
I would just wanna point out that they are altering the MM system after 4 months - which was barely enough to iterate that uncivilised, 10th century caveman idea of the very first, GP based ranking.

At some point you need to ask the question: do those guys over there believe for a second that what they create is actually good in any sense?

They have made zero changes to MM.

Oh i see you dont think the opponent selection and the promotion/demotion are integrated. Cool stuff, move on.

"SerWulfgar;c-2352257" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352233" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352231" wrote:
I would just wanna point out that they are altering the MM system after 4 months - which was barely enough to iterate that uncivilised, 10th century caveman idea of the very first, GP based ranking.

At some point you need to ask the question: do those guys over there believe for a second that what they create is actually good in any sense?

They have made zero changes to MM.

Oh i see you dont think the opponent selection and the promotion/demotion are integrated. Cool stuff, move on.

Well, they aren't integrated. You are promoted/demoted up to 3x during a week, but the MM was already done before any of that happened.

"StarSon;c-2352258" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352257" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352233" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352231" wrote:
I would just wanna point out that they are altering the MM system after 4 months - which was barely enough to iterate that uncivilised, 10th century caveman idea of the very first, GP based ranking.

At some point you need to ask the question: do those guys over there believe for a second that what they create is actually good in any sense?

They have made zero changes to MM.

Oh i see you dont think the opponent selection and the promotion/demotion are integrated. Cool stuff, move on.

Well, they aren't integrated. You are promoted/demoted up to 3x during a week, but the MM was already done before any of that happened.

Like, okay, you dont think changing the frequency of promotion/demotion is actually a parameter of the system. I get it, you made it clear in the first comment now please do move on.

"SerWulfgar;c-2352257" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352233" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352231" wrote:
I would just wanna point out that they are altering the MM system after 4 months - which was barely enough to iterate that uncivilised, 10th century caveman idea of the very first, GP based ranking.

At some point you need to ask the question: do those guys over there believe for a second that what they create is actually good in any sense?

They have made zero changes to MM.

Oh i see you dont think the opponent selection and the promotion/demotion are integrated. Cool stuff, move on.

The only thing affected by the mid event changes of division is crystal income. MM only happens at the end of the event and will be the same whether the changes to divisions happen during or after the event.

My guess is their data is showing that there are more people being demoted during an event then there are being promoted and this change is likely decreasing the amount of crystals going out during daily payouts.

"SerWulfgar;c-2352259" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352258" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352257" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352233" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352231" wrote:
I would just wanna point out that they are altering the MM system after 4 months - which was barely enough to iterate that uncivilised, 10th century caveman idea of the very first, GP based ranking.

At some point you need to ask the question: do those guys over there believe for a second that what they create is actually good in any sense?

They have made zero changes to MM.

Oh i see you dont think the opponent selection and the promotion/demotion are integrated. Cool stuff, move on.

Well, they aren't integrated. You are promoted/demoted up to 3x during a week, but the MM was already done before any of that happened.

Like, okay, you dont think changing the frequency of promotion/demotion is actually a parameter of the system. I get it, you made it clear in the first comment now please do move on.

I don't understand why you think the frequency of promotion/demotion would matter? MM is done at the start of the week, and afawk the only thing it looks at is Skill Rating. Once the group of 8 is set, it doesn't change. Where in that process does the fact that you were promoted and demoted last week matter?

"SerWulfgar;c-2352266" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352262" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352259" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352258" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352257" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2352233" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2352231" wrote:
I would just wanna point out that they are altering the MM system after 4 months - which was barely enough to iterate that uncivilised, 10th century caveman idea of the very first, GP based ranking.

At some point you need to ask the question: do those guys over there believe for a second that what they create is actually good in any sense?

They have made zero changes to MM.

Oh i see you dont think the opponent selection and the promotion/demotion are integrated. Cool stuff, move on.

Well, they aren't integrated. You are promoted/demoted up to 3x during a week, but the MM was already done before any of that happened.

Like, okay, you dont think changing the frequency of promotion/demotion is actually a parameter of the system. I get it, you made it clear in the first comment now please do move on.

I don't understand why you think the frequency of promotion/demotion would matter? MM is done at the start of the week, and afawk the only thing it looks at is Skill Rating. Once the group of 8 is set, it doesn't change. Where in that process does the fact that you were promoted and demoted last week matter?

If i change the term "MM" to "GAC rules" will you get the point?

No, because they're not the same thing.

"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:

"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:

"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:

"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.

Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"

How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.

Show me where he's getting k3 rewards

The daily crystals will be the k3 amount

That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?

Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals

"CCyrilS;c-2352331" wrote:

"ScoundrelRui;c-2352327" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:

"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:

"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:

"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.

Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"

How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.

Show me where he's getting k3 rewards

The daily crystals will be the k3 amount

That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?

Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals

Idk if something is wrong then. Some people are reporting still getting higher rewards....

It's too hard to tell if people are reporting correctly or not, since nobody is posting screeshots for proof.

I got promoted and got more daily crystals. It makes sense. It's in the system for you to get what is assorted to your division. If they would continue to give you the amount from before, they would have to implement a lot of new cases for exceptions from that.

I will make a screenshot when I get my new dailies. Last but not least, eventhough I now get more, I don't think it's fair that people get different rewards if they are matched against each other. If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards. And yes, I would accept to get less in my case. A fair, equal reward for all please.