"Lumiya;c-2352341" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352331" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352327" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals
Idk if something is wrong then. Some people are reporting still getting higher rewards....
It's too hard to tell if people are reporting correctly or not, since nobody is posting screeshots for proof.
I got promoted and got more daily crystals. It makes sense. It's in the system for you to get what is assorted to your division. If they would continue to give you the amount from before, they would have to implement a lot of new cases for exceptions from that.
I will make a screenshot when I get my new dailies. Last but not least, eventhough I now get more, I don't think it's fair that people get different rewards if they are matched against each other. If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards. And yes, I would accept to get less in my case. A fair, equal reward for all please.
"CCyrilS;c-2352363" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352350" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352343" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352341" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352331" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352327" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals
Idk if something is wrong then. Some people are reporting still getting higher rewards....
It's too hard to tell if people are reporting correctly or not, since nobody is posting screeshots for proof.
I got promoted and got more daily crystals. It makes sense. It's in the system for you to get what is assorted to your division. If they would continue to give you the amount from before, they would have to implement a lot of new cases for exceptions from that.
I will make a screenshot when I get my new dailies. Last but not least, eventhough I now get more, I don't think it's fair that people get different rewards if they are matched against each other. If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards. And yes, I would accept to get less in my case. A fair, equal reward for all please.
The part about getting same as others in your bracket doesn't bother me one bit. I don't see how it's at all relevant.
But I do think it should be consistent, either way, so it would be nice to see some evidence to ensure it's working correctly.
I think it's relevant because it means, in addition to the daily crystals, it is very likely that you will also get the win/loss amount of your new division. So if someone got relegated they not only get less daily crystals but also less crystals even if they win. But this part is only speculation for now, we will have the answer to that in roughly 21 hours. I'll take a screenshot from that aswell. ?
Let's address problems AFTER we know they exist.
"Lumiya;c-2352449" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352363" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352350" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352343" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352341" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352331" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352327" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals
Idk if something is wrong then. Some people are reporting still getting higher rewards....
It's too hard to tell if people are reporting correctly or not, since nobody is posting screeshots for proof.
I got promoted and got more daily crystals. It makes sense. It's in the system for you to get what is assorted to your division. If they would continue to give you the amount from before, they would have to implement a lot of new cases for exceptions from that.
I will make a screenshot when I get my new dailies. Last but not least, eventhough I now get more, I don't think it's fair that people get different rewards if they are matched against each other. If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards. And yes, I would accept to get less in my case. A fair, equal reward for all please.
The part about getting same as others in your bracket doesn't bother me one bit. I don't see how it's at all relevant.
But I do think it should be consistent, either way, so it would be nice to see some evidence to ensure it's working correctly.
I think it's relevant because it means, in addition to the daily crystals, it is very likely that you will also get the win/loss amount of your new division. So if someone got relegated they not only get less daily crystals but also less crystals even if they win. But this part is only speculation for now, we will have the answer to that in roughly 21 hours. I'll take a screenshot from that aswell. ?
Let's address problems AFTER we know they exist.
We know that people get the daily rewards from the divisions they have been promoted/demoted to... that's already enough to say it's not fair. Follow up of GAC rewards later
"Lumiya;c-2352577" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352564" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352561" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352553" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352551" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352491" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352449" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352363" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352350" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352343" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352341" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352331" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352327" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals
Idk if something is wrong then. Some people are reporting still getting higher rewards....
It's too hard to tell if people are reporting correctly or not, since nobody is posting screeshots for proof.
I got promoted and got more daily crystals. It makes sense. It's in the system for you to get what is assorted to your division. If they would continue to give you the amount from before, they would have to implement a lot of new cases for exceptions from that.
I will make a screenshot when I get my new dailies. Last but not least, eventhough I now get more, I don't think it's fair that people get different rewards if they are matched against each other. If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards. And yes, I would accept to get less in my case. A fair, equal reward for all please.
The part about getting same as others in your bracket doesn't bother me one bit. I don't see how it's at all relevant.
But I do think it should be consistent, either way, so it would be nice to see some evidence to ensure it's working correctly.
I think it's relevant because it means, in addition to the daily crystals, it is very likely that you will also get the win/loss amount of your new division. So if someone got relegated they not only get less daily crystals but also less crystals even if they win. But this part is only speculation for now, we will have the answer to that in roughly 21 hours. I'll take a screenshot from that aswell. ?
Let's address problems AFTER we know they exist.
We know that people get the daily rewards from the divisions they have been promoted/demoted to... that's already enough to say it's not fair. Follow up of GAC rewards later
This was the part I didn't have an issue with. Sometimes you'll move up, sometimes down. It evens out. As long as it's consistent, it's fine.
Just because you don't have an issue with it doesn't mean that others don't/ can't have an issue with it.
I lost my GAC round so I can not check if the rewards are from the new division, because they are the same throughout the divisionsin the same League. Maybe someone who got promoted/ relegated last round and won this round can provide information on that.
I'm not stopping anyone from taking issue. I'm just explaining why there isn't one.
And I am explaining why there is one ?
Anyway, you didn't believe that people got the dailies from their new division, wanted proof and you got it.
Hopefully someone can also provide screenshots with the rewards for a win.
And I do appreciate that. I only had what other's were saying to go on, so I asked for evidence. That part is clear now.
Now as far as reward go, seems this should be the only option, no?
Some of us in my bracket have moved up a division, but we're all locked into the same rewards.
Those are the rewards for the end of bracket placement after 3 rounds. They are always the same everywhere. The issue is with people now being relegated or promoted during the 3 rounds in one bracket and getting different daily/win rewards while they are still in the same bracket and get set against each other.
"24_Tuesdays;c-2352585" wrote:If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards.
im saying you havent explained why other than you think it should be that way
if thats your only reason than fine
i disagree with your reason
"Lumiya;c-2352551" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352491" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352449" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352363" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352350" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352343" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352341" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352331" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352327" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals
Idk if something is wrong then. Some people are reporting still getting higher rewards....
It's too hard to tell if people are reporting correctly or not, since nobody is posting screeshots for proof.
I got promoted and got more daily crystals. It makes sense. It's in the system for you to get what is assorted to your division. If they would continue to give you the amount from before, they would have to implement a lot of new cases for exceptions from that.
I will make a screenshot when I get my new dailies. Last but not least, eventhough I now get more, I don't think it's fair that people get different rewards if they are matched against each other. If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards. And yes, I would accept to get less in my case. A fair, equal reward for all please.
The part about getting same as others in your bracket doesn't bother me one bit. I don't see how it's at all relevant.
But I do think it should be consistent, either way, so it would be nice to see some evidence to ensure it's working correctly.
I think it's relevant because it means, in addition to the daily crystals, it is very likely that you will also get the win/loss amount of your new division. So if someone got relegated they not only get less daily crystals but also less crystals even if they win. But this part is only speculation for now, we will have the answer to that in roughly 21 hours. I'll take a screenshot from that aswell. ?
Let's address problems AFTER we know they exist.
We know that people get the daily rewards from the divisions they have been promoted/demoted to... that's already enough to say it's not fair. Follow up of GAC rewards later
This was the part I didn't have an issue with. Sometimes you'll move up, sometimes down. It evens out. As long as it's consistent, it's fine.
Just because you don't have an issue with it doesn't mean that others don't/ can't have an issue with it.
"zatho;c-2352668" wrote:
previously you were relegated at the end of each Event, as you can see as light blue bars in the image:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/584020517686607885/930371169943707648/Screenshot_20220111-090245.jpg
now you are relegated after each round:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884148623007445072/962627754229116978/Screenshot_20220410-101834.png?width=1220&height=686
Has this change been communicated?
"Lumiya;c-2352672" wrote:"Waqui;c-2352657" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352551" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352491" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352449" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352363" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352350" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352343" wrote:"Lumiya;c-2352341" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352331" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352327" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
Yes, I got demoted and got less daily crystals
Idk if something is wrong then. Some people are reporting still getting higher rewards....
It's too hard to tell if people are reporting correctly or not, since nobody is posting screeshots for proof.
I got promoted and got more daily crystals. It makes sense. It's in the system for you to get what is assorted to your division. If they would continue to give you the amount from before, they would have to implement a lot of new cases for exceptions from that.
I will make a screenshot when I get my new dailies. Last but not least, eventhough I now get more, I don't think it's fair that people get different rewards if they are matched against each other. If they start in the same bracket, are set against each other, they also should get the same rewards. And yes, I would accept to get less in my case. A fair, equal reward for all please.
The part about getting same as others in your bracket doesn't bother me one bit. I don't see how it's at all relevant.
But I do think it should be consistent, either way, so it would be nice to see some evidence to ensure it's working correctly.
I think it's relevant because it means, in addition to the daily crystals, it is very likely that you will also get the win/loss amount of your new division. So if someone got relegated they not only get less daily crystals but also less crystals even if they win. But this part is only speculation for now, we will have the answer to that in roughly 21 hours. I'll take a screenshot from that aswell. ?
Let's address problems AFTER we know they exist.
We know that people get the daily rewards from the divisions they have been promoted/demoted to... that's already enough to say it's not fair. Follow up of GAC rewards later
This was the part I didn't have an issue with. Sometimes you'll move up, sometimes down. It evens out. As long as it's consistent, it's fine.
Just because you don't have an issue with it doesn't mean that others don't/ can't have an issue with it.
Just because you have an issue with it doesn't mean it's an issue. We each just present our opinions and arguments.
Why is it such an issue for you? Over time it more or less evens out with regards to rewards.
I already wrote why I think it's unfair. And again, I was even one that "profited" from the change because I got promoted, yet I understand how those must feel whom have been relegated. Empathy and fairness are a thing and that's why I take an issue with this.
Since when is it a good idea to have people start at the same point, set them against each other but give them different rewards while they are still together in one bracket? If you have 1 bracket of 3 rounds and have those people compete against each other, their rewards should be equal.
"Lumiya;c-2352672" wrote:
Otherwise get rid of the brackets and set people 1 on 1, always according to their actual SR and division, then you can give them the rewards according to their division and noone feels disatvantaged.
"Lumiya;c-2352672" wrote:
This argument that things even out glosses over the fact that again the total amount of crystals that go out to the players get controlled more and are actually less. There have been players that won their first round but because of the squish still had not enough SR points for their division so they still got demoted... eventhough they won! They got less crystals! Do you really think that's fair? Is that "earned"? If you go by earned then they would have earned the same or more crystals for a win, not less!
