The Royal Guard + Rey combo has got to be addressed

Here's the rub, imo.

Would we be complaining about RG (heh, as much), if Rey wasn't in the game?
I have to strategize and think about how to deal with RG and any other toons. Maybe more than ST Han, but I am still having a thoughtful gamer experience.

But with Rey... There is no strategy, there is no thought. It is just fighting against unreasonable numbers.
The problem isn't RG and Rey.
The problem is Rey.


(Specifically, the tuning of just one variable. Rey's damage)

I agree with Darth Butt. The problem is rey's Speed + Damage. She creates too much havoc too quickly. Her alone can demolish almost any team. This should be the case. The should be a great character don't get me wrong but she should not deal that much damage. Same goes for GS, he needs to be nerfed as well.

I'm tired of seeing these nerf Rey threads. She provides no utility to the team and has a weak health pool. Droids together cause as much damage as Rey while getting 50% tm boosts under an HK lead and always moving first thanks to JE. Geo Spy has a special that causes 40% extra damage for each buff/debuff that they and the character they're attacking have. Someone posted a video on here of him critting for 48k earlier this week.

Rey is very balanced as she is, and she's a very welcome toon to have when you come up on the modded 80k health +protection RG/Hans/Sun Facs that are out there.

"Tuftedpaper85;588525" wrote:
I'm tired of seeing these nerf Rey threads. She provides no utility to the team and has a weak health pool. Droids together cause as much damage as Rey while getting 50% tm boosts under an HK lead and always moving first thanks to JE. Geo Spy has a special that causes 40% extra damage for each buff/debuff that they and the character they're attacking have. Someone posted a video on here of him critting for 48k earlier this week.

Rey is very balanced as she is, and she's a very welcome toon to have when you come up on the modded 80k health +protection RG/Hans/Sun Facs that are out there.

Rey needs to be nerfed, GS needs to be nerfed and the droids need to be nerfed. Either that or give everyone more health.

FOTP with Advantage and/or offense up will drop her like a hot potato.

I'll bet my right arm that many of you complaining about this RG and Rey combo are using it at this very moment. No character needs to be nerfed and simply adding more health to other characters will only make Rey more mandatory on top arena teams.
Instead I think there needs to be much more emphasis on factions and synergy. The best examples I can think of are droids, clones, rebels, and ewoks. However, only two of those factions can realistically and consistently compete for rank 1 on a mature server, one of which is p2w so it's not an option for most.

A few points about the "Rey complaint":

1) Her kit is one of the least synergistic there is. She calls no assist, doesn't stun, manipulate turn meter, heal, debuff, she has no leadership abilities, etc. All she does is damage. Yes, she does that one thing very well - but that's all she does.

2) She is very easy to kill. In fact, she'd be like IG88 on droid teams - dead before he moves, if it weren't for tanks and/or foresight. Yes, even with protection - because hers is not good. She is the epitome of the term "glass cannon".

3) Please stop stating that she "one-shot kills" - because she doesn't. Not unless you let her buff and are WAY under-geared and under-leveled. As someone that plays on a very mature server (and see Rey on at least half the teams I face) - I have never had her "one-shot kill" any of my heroes.

Stun her (Daka is almost as fast as Rey - especially with the right mods), drop offense down on her, ability block her (which takes away her two strongest attacks), counter her (Aayla, Fives, Dooku, etc.). Droids + JE can annihilate her before she moves. Strategize and beat her. It's much more fun than complaining and calling for nerfs.

When I spend a year farming Darth Vader shards because he's supposed to be the most powerful character in the game, and a character like Rey comes along and can do Vader's top damage at-will and attack twice as often, while having foresight on top of everything else, and is easily farmable in just a month or two by anyone, it ruins my experience and makes me feel like the time, energy, $$$, and resources I invested in obtaining Vader was completely wasted. It's a complete slap in the face.

And no, the problem isn't Vader for the most part, though he would probably benefit from a boost to his speed or a couple other minor tweaks. The problems is simply that Rey's speed + damage + foresight is ridiculously overpowered and SOMETHING needs to be done to bring her more in-line with the other characters in the game.

Remember that post where the developers said that they were making some of the higher-powered characters slower to offset their increased damage? Still waiting on that. In the meantime, I'm reading posts where players are boasting that they have Rey doing massive crits at 200+ speed.

If they were going to make Rey this powerful and leave her that way, then they should have made her the reward for completing achievements, not Vader.

"Nikoms565;593601" wrote:
A few points about the "Rey complaint":

1) Her kit is one of the least synergistic there is. She calls no assist, doesn't stun, manipulate turn meter, heal, debuff, she has no leadership abilities, etc. All she does is damage. Yes, she does that one thing very well - but that's all she does.

2) She is very easy to kill. In fact, she'd be like IG88 on droid teams - dead before he moves, if it weren't for tanks and/or foresight. Yes, even with protection - because hers is not good. She is the epitome of the term "glass cannon".

3) Please stop stating that she "one-shot kills" - because she doesn't. Not unless you let her buff and are WAY under-geared and under-leveled. As someone that plays on a very mature server (and see Rey on at least half the teams I face) - I have never had her "one-shot kill" any of my heroes.

Stun her (Daka is almost as fast as Rey - especially with the right mods), drop offense down on her, ability block her (which takes away her two strongest attacks), counter her (Aayla, Fives, Dooku, etc.). Droids + JE can annihilate her before she moves. Strategize and beat her. It's much more fun than complaining and calling for nerfs.

I have to agree, she's not hard to get down if you set your team right. RG can be handled with QGJ or Teebo easily. You don't need to kill him just her then go about your business with the rest of your opponent's team. Try being creative and work at it, this can be done.

As for the dodge, the top teams I face don't have OB so much but I'm seeing JKA, AA, QGJ to name a few. I rarely see Dooku anymore as he's not hard to kill if you have Rey, JKA, QGJ or Vader.

"Grraauuggh;593812" wrote:
When I spend a year farming Darth Vader shards because he's supposed to be the most powerful character in the game, and a character like Rey comes along and can do Vader's top damage at-will and attack twice as often, while having foresight on top of everything else, and is easily farmable in just a month or two by anyone, it ruins my experience and makes me feel like the time, energy, $$$, and resources I invested in obtaining Vader was completely wasted. It's a complete slap in the face.

And no, the problem isn't Vader for the most part, though he would probably benefit from a boost to his speed or a couple other minor tweaks. The problems is simply that Rey's speed + damage + foresight is ridiculously overpowered and SOMETHING needs to be done to bring her more in-line with the other characters in the game.

Remember that post where the developers said that they were making some of the higher-powered characters slower to offset their increased damage? Still waiting on that. In the meantime, I'm reading posts where players are boasting that they have Rey doing massive crits at 200+ speed.

If they were going to make Rey this powerful and leave her that way, then they should have made her the reward for completing achievements, not Vader.

The 200+ speed Rey is there for all to have....

I have her @ 219 and I'm a light spender, much lighter recently.