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6 years ago

The scary trend of the game

Since the promise of more legendary character events, I've gotten excited, but Chewie had me spent 4 hours of countless retries on tier 7, which was baffling because my BH were each G11 with a zeta bossk lead. Yeah, G11 squad with the best BH lead and I spent hours beating the event with the proper kill order every time I went in to fail. That morning was infuriating for me, and I spent those 4 hours swearing every imaginable nasty thing to whoever designed the event. I even considered making a thread, but eventually I beat the event. Now 3P0 comes along. I have zeta G9 chirpa (thanks for making me waste a zeta guys), G11 wicket elder teebo, G9 scout. No Paploo or Logray sadly, but attempt 32 and the closest I've gotten was nearly knocking down chewie with only 3 ewoks even alive, so to say my heart was beating even though I wasn't winning anything. Next up is Wicket zeta, (yeah thanks for making me waste another, my JTR squad is still waiting). I'm furiously farming Paploo, 64/85, so we all know he's not hitting 7 star in 4 days without money. But this all leads to the center of my argument. The requirements are getting out of hand. CG, you honestly need to shut down the events and rename the requirements to G11 and up, have the toon that every single person here knows you intentionally centered the event around (cough cough logray for daze), and meet a zeta minimum. I mean do you take us for fools? There are SIX enemies this time all gold and all with ambiguous speeds going not only first but assists everywhere I can't even keep track. My elder is 241 speed and with his 70% turn meter per turn, he's still slow compared to these rebels. I remember the day when I was raging about trying to beat Palpatine's event with G8, now I can barely beat these events with zetas and G10+, something I know will only continue to get worse. This game is truly a wonderful game, it's concept and design is unrivaled, CG does phenomenal with the core of the game, but every one can tell EA is milking this game to an extreme, and it just keeps making me want to quit so much. I've never experienced anger like I have with this game. I've thrown my phone at the wall and shattered it before, my face gets so red from yelling to the point I get a headache afterwards, and my blood pressure gets so high it's actually dangerous, and this stems from being a competitive free to play player. As a free to play player, trying to compete in the high end results is so much anger, and that's not due to my play style. Every time these new events pop up, I spend so much energy to complete it just because I need to keep up. for 3m gp, I have a very spread out roster, and I blow through hard node farms, as right now 7 more shards for Hound and that's 7 star, but why should I keep going? This game just needs one thing and that's money, so I essentially have zero value to the game, and as such I'll be treated that way. CG, I just really wish the game wasn't so hostile to competitive free to play. Any one can be a free to play person, but this game is built on competing with other people, and the only way to do good in this game is pay money. There are some people out here that are brilliant with how they play without spending, and that is truly impressive, but I'm can barely keep my head above the water with all the farms being thrown our way. The only thing keeping me from quitting is the built up addiction, and when I've tried to quit before, I came back because noon comes and I reach for the game that's uninstalled and think oh yeah. I managed to quit an actual illegal drug way easier than this game, and that's a problem. Because this problem is only getting worse, the next step is to figure out how to delete my my google account. I've been pushed past what I can handle in tolerance, and this has gone for years. It's time to call it a day, because I have zero value to the game as a player without giving my wallet, and one way or another I refuse to give money to the game. I would give my money to charity, to real struggling causes long before I do to this game. SWGOH was fantastic, but over time it just get's ruined, and if you're a new player, I advise you to quit now if you plan on being free to play and competitive. I will never recommend this game to anyone, and I truly honestly hope these words make a difference if devs read this. I know I'm not the only one who starts being sick of the way the system works. You would think that with data would state a clear point on how many free to play 4m gp accounts there are vs how many pay to play 4m gp accounts there are. Let's be honest. If you're 4m, there is a very high chance that you've spent a fair amount of money. Anyways that's it from me.

TL;DR: Events are only getting more expensive inducing, this game has no place for competitive f2p, this 3P0 event is bananas in vigor, and that's only going to get worse, CG is amazing but EA is messing everything up. Also I'm gonna delete my google account or something because this game gave me a bad case of anger management.

feedback

trystanspyder
6 years ago
@Darth_DeVito not much to add to your point. I'm just giving you thumbs up for the Everquest reference.
Vaderizer
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
"Darth_DeVito;c-1724433" wrote:
"Vendi1983;c-1724025" wrote:
"Beyol;c-1724015" wrote:
"Vendi1983;c-1723987" wrote:
"Vos_Landeck;c-1723869" wrote:
There is no video game on the planet that makes the best end-game characters easy for F2P to get. The Revan event was not high in difficulty.....this one, like the Chewie one, was higher in difficulty because the characters that can be used for the event have been farmable for a long time.

Correct that to "mobile micro-transaction game". If you buy/bought console games for a fixed initial price you'd eventually have access to everything, particularly back before constant online play. I never had to whip out my credit card to finish an RPG, max out a character, get a better car in a racing game, or unlock better attack combos. All it took was patience, perseverance, and sometimes luck. That's the part that's frustrating. They intentionally stonewall people until they're so frustrated by bottlenecks, over-the-top gear requirements, or insanely truncated timelines for events that they give up and whip out the VISA. It's borderline predatory and a really sad comment on corporate greed versus customer satisfaction.

@Neo2551 Old Daka is sad that you're forgetting her any-faction revive chance. :(

Yes, but you pay for those console games upward to 60 or 70 bucks before you ever play it. This is free to download and play. If people want to advance faster than f2p can take you, you pay for that chance. No difference.

Not exactly. $60-70 used to net you a complete game. Hours and hours of content. All at your fingertips without the need to buy it again. If they wanted to add more, they released an expansion set for maybe $15-30 that added entirely new content, sometimes effectively doubling the size of the game.

Here, they sell an Ewok pack for more than that game plus expansion that doesn't even guarantee your ability unlock a SINGLE new character. I'm surprised by how much money people are willing to throw into this game without pausing to reflect on the actual scale of the investment compared to the rewards. It's insane.

There's a MASSIVE difference.

That was offline gaming though. When online games became a thing, MMORPGs like Ultima Online or Everquest charged 60-ish bucks for the base game and a monthly fee of $10. You also had to buy the occasional expansion (25 over the years in case of EQ) in order to raise your level cap and keep up with your friends and guild mates. An internet connection wasn't exactly cheap either back in the '90s. There were months where my phone & internet bill was around 600 DM (ca. $350).

If you invest the average monthly MMO fee in SWGOH, you get quite a bit of content in return. Yet unlike the online games of old, it doesn't force you to pay a single cent. Is there a built-in frustration factor that tempts people to reach for their wallet? Absolutely. But games like Everquest were extremely frustrating too, and you didn't even have the option to take microtransaction shortcuts. All you could do was grind & raid every night until the early morning hours to gear up your character/s and keep up with your guild. It was almost a second job, and you had to pay for the privilege of working 8 hours per night.

Had we EQ addicts been given the option to buy rare gear... many did just that on eBay and risked getting banned for it. I suppose that's when the gaming industry realized just how much online gamers are willing to spend on their ~~addiction~~ virtual hobbies.

*raises fist in former-EQ-fiend solidarity*
VeeKnea
6 years ago
I don’t manage my resources wisely. BH is a required team for dstb. As much as people say you can farm what you want- if you want to help you functioning guild you BH. I complained on their lack of rework when dstb came out. Then boom. New BH that are pretty great. Bossk is an awesome toon.

I did not care about Ewoks at all. Then the wicket event came out and I ignored it for the few events it came around. A lot of ppl did. Cap wanted them to be viable in other areas so ppl would farm them. Once they changed the way we could acquire mt and wicket I farmed them both.

I made Ewoks passable for the event only. Once c3po rumors started to come around here I geared them and zetad chirps. Fun team useable in many game modes. Got OTC. No complaints.

I’m not much of a spender but really stopped putting any money in this game when I went on my short lived hiatus.

Content has to get more demanding. Sometimes I think the player base forgets we are one gear slot from g13 now. Preloaded tm is frustrating and having to do some of these events 100s of times made me want to pull my hair out. But Idk another solution. If it’s just kill order it’s problem solved by one look on the forums.

I do my best to help myself when it comes to events, help my guild in guild content, and try my best to work on toons I want.

I currently have 10/14 zetas on empire and only 2 that aren’t g12. Told you I am terrible with my resources. But it makes me happy. My alliance makes me happy. And I know if I won’t unlock it’s nbd because they always come back.

I didn’t even try for revan it was just laughable to me. Saving 10k worth of purp shouldn’t be considered a farming method.

TLDR- trend of the game is the same. There’s no real mountain top. There never will be. If anything we should be advocating for newer players to advance faster so we don’t age out here and can continue to play a game that has consumed my time literally longer than some of my relationships. ( that 2 year mark always gets me)
WargasmGT
6 years ago
Don't zeta wicket if you don't have papaloo you won't do it. 32nd try j think I tried well over 1000 times. I didn't have it with logray but I did have papaloo and all my ewoks were g10 apart from ewok scout who was g9. I did zeta chirpa. I'm glad these events are hard cos it stops everyone getting him which adds novelty to the character.

I feel your frustration though as I tried so hard for this., played off in the end and yesterday I soloed our tank raid with 43mil damage.

You can do it don't give up