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dom7day's avatar
6 years ago

This needs to stop.....

This really has to stop....its absurd that a marquee toon becomes a platoon req in the middle of a TB, let alone the fact its a pay to play toon, preventing entire guilds from ever maxing platoons.


  • "ENERGYSS;c-1784170" wrote:
    Yup... our guild have 2 of them at it needs to be at minimum 5 stars to put it there...




    I count six stars, not five.
  • "jkray622;c-1784175" wrote:
    Honestly - in a game like this, I can't think of any gameplay or release-based decision that could be classified as immoral. Any decisions they make in game might make players unhappy, but they can't force you to do anything.

    Even if they announced that Darth Revan will be released, but you must pay $500 cash (no crystals, no f2p method) to get him - that's not "immoral."


    Even completely changing a kit 2 years later and not refunding the zeta?
  • "Darknesswon;c-1784215" wrote:
    "jkray622;c-1784175" wrote:
    Honestly - in a game like this, I can't think of any gameplay or release-based decision that could be classified as immoral. Any decisions they make in game might make players unhappy, but they can't force you to do anything.

    Even if they announced that Darth Revan will be released, but you must pay $500 cash (no crystals, no f2p method) to get him - that's not "immoral."


    Even completely changing a kit 2 years later and not refunding the zeta?


    Nothing "immoral" about that.

    I think this warrants a zeta refund like they did with Daka after the Nightsister revamp, but it's a game. No one is hurt, injured, or financially impacted as a result of this change. Everyone who zeta'd Finn already received a lot of value out of having his zeta over the past 2 years - so you could consider that worth the cost of the 20 zetas.

    Additionally - they are indicating that zeta Finn can still defeat all the same squads it could defeat, and the rework can now register ~20% of HSith phase 3. Daka's zeta basically had no significant use after the Zombie rework, so I think there was a much bigger argument for refunding it.

    So is it a good decision? I think the better "Customer Service"-oriented decision would be to refund the zeta and let players decide. But just because I think it's not the best decision doesn't make it "immoral."
  • "Dunedain;d-196315" wrote:
    This really has to stop....its absurd that a marquee toon becomes a platoon req in the middle of a TB, let alone the fact its a pay to play toon, preventing entire guilds from ever maxing platoons.




    What do you mean by “in the middle of TB”? B1 marquee happened before the TB started, and like all other marquees, he is in the platoons right away. He wasn’t in p1-3 because those platoons are curated.
  • "Darknesswon;c-1784215" wrote:
    "jkray622;c-1784175" wrote:
    Honestly - in a game like this, I can't think of any gameplay or release-based decision that could be classified as immoral. Any decisions they make in game might make players unhappy, but they can't force you to do anything.

    Even if they announced that Darth Revan will be released, but you must pay $500 cash (no crystals, no f2p method) to get him - that's not "immoral."


    Even completely changing a kit 2 years later and not refunding the zeta?


    You mean changing the kit for better than it was BEFORE C3P0 brought in a glitch to it?
  • "jkray622;c-1784163" wrote:
    This isn't a "moral" decision. It's a business decision.

    Some players spend money on the game. Their financial investment (usually) gets them a competitive advantage. In the case of Platoons, it means that guilds that have members who spend money will have a competitive advantage over guilds that are completely f2p.

    If nobody spends money on the game, it will quickly shut down, so players who spend money are funding the f2p players.

    I also find it frustrating because my guild only has a couple of guys who spend (and only on certain characters), but have recognized that it is the business model for the game, and is unlikely to change.


    Its amusing you pretend to know how they allocate the revenue generated from the game....cuz if they changed their business model to a yearly subscription, like so many other games out there, the game would shut down...give me a break
  • "jkray622;c-1784163" wrote:
    This isn't a "moral" decision. It's a business decision.

    The 2 should not be conflated or separated. Many business decisions have a moral component and many moral decisions affect business.
    This is a game though. If them doing things like this raises your blood pressure then perhaps it isn't fulfilling the things in your life you want. Time to look elsewhere?