Vader Zeta - Can we see your best effort on P3 AAT

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Bariss almost useless when you freezing time. Same goes for tusken chamans. So no

@Moicaliss

1. He answered someone else
2. If you use boba instead of EP you don't 'freeze time'. Or even if you use EP and just don't shock all the droids
3. Tusken shaman gets TM from enemy defeats
4. No one has tried that composition on the forums, so we don't know if it works

I think that team can get to enrage, and reduce TM, and give you massive Vader hits. I think it will do much better than the other teams people are using, but what do I know? Nothing, that's why I'd like to see it be tested by someone

If you make it to enrage, you're likely not going to do enough damage. Also, if you don't 'freeze time' per se, you'll donhardly any damage. Bariss zeta won't help much in P3.

@benacrow You will have 40+ dots and offense up to hit with. One crit on that alone is looking at 500k? More?

EP will help control boss TM for more Vader hits(EP and Vader each have 2x50% chance to reduce TM as they are empire and sith), or boba will give you two hitters and even more dots

"Cardiff0;846821" wrote:
@benacrow You will have 40+ dots and offense up to hit with. One crit on that alone is looking at 500k? More?

EP will help control boss TM for more Vader hits(EP and Vader each have 2x50% chance to reduce TM as they are empire and sith), or boba will give you two hitters and even more dots

If you don't have more crowd control, you're going to get maybe 1-2 500k hits in, which isn't good enough.

"Maraxus;846556" wrote:

"Tuftedpaper85;846445" wrote:

"Prana_lama;846005" wrote:
https://youtu.be/ZuARZ5yHZvM

Have you thought of putting a zeta on Barris and using her instead of sunfac? The one thing it looked like this team was missing was a healer to keep palp and the tanks alive longer

Bariss can't take a turn with ep and tfp almost locking the tm.., and relying only on her "on Crit heal" seems a bit thin

"Moicaliss;846689" wrote:
Bariss almost useless when you freezing time. Same goes for tusken chamans. So no

Yeah but I don't think need her to take a turn for her to do well. The video poster started losing characters at 8 turns till enrage, and I think that having a zeta Barris who provides a 20% heal when they get critted on could help that little bit more of surviveability to get the team that much closer to enrage and cause much damage.

@benacrow Firstly that's a guess, it might be more or less. Secondly it could easily be good enough! All the hits from EP, all the dots, the other Vader hits... Or the boba hits in addition... you could get to 2mil easy if you take those as well. That's one of the best raid scores we have atm.

The only potential problems I see with it are:

1. RG can't take the hits from the top cannon and be healed before he dies
2. RG not taunting when the big cannon hits. This, rather than 'freezing time' (lol) is more the problem with shocking all the droids with EP as I see it - EP can reduce the boss TM sufficiently to give the others turns and do tons of damage in my book. However if all the droids are shocked, they'll never get enough TM to damage the other characters and pull up RG the whole time so he's ready to take the hit when you need. Using boba or not shocking everyone would probly let RG be pulled up at the right time.

But, that's why I'd like to see someone play around with it!

Instead of EP I'd probably use boba for the extra dots, and big hits, but I think both are worth trying.

Also, instead of thinking it's not good enough, don't you want to actually see if it's good enough? Doesn't it sound fun? Lining dots up and then just smashing people with Vader! I want to see it in action but these guys don't respond. Rude!

@fberbert do you have Zeta barriss to test this? I know you will care bro :)

I've done one run with Zader, EP, TFP, RG, and Shoretrooper. I got just over 1mil. My next Zeta may go to Barris. I think that will help tremendously since your score basically depends on how long your tanks survive.

It won't work! It's simple, due to the fact you're not freezing the time all the droids will act. So your team won't survive long. Maybe 2 culling blade before you died.

Oh and bariss zeta...20% heal on crit, nope i prefer a second tank to take the damage, it's a way better.