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- jdjdjfkth3 days agoNew Hotshot
They put “moving goalpost” in quotations because while they hear the phrase often, they don’t know what it means. They just tell you what you want to hear.
- gufu213 days agoSeasoned Ace
This. Another example of why CG doesn't deserve our trust. Apparently, too many players already had Kleya leveled up, so CG just moved the goalposts again to make more money.
- CommanderBarcara3 days agoSeasoned Ace
- ZanirN7S3 days agoSeasoned Ace
OP, I must be stupid, because I don't see conflicting information here.
Forum post: tier 1 requires Marquees 1-5 (5 of 6, excluding KX Droid) at 4 stars, including Kleya at EL 45.
In-game newsletter: tier 1 requires the first 5 Marquees at 4 stars, including Dedra at EL 45.
Explain to me which goalpost moved. Did you assume tier 1 would only require Kleya? Or only Rebels? And you think that requiring Dedra at a certain EL contradicts this?
You silly goose. - gufu213 days agoSeasoned Ace
I mean, you might be stupid? You tell me. This is the difference:
Forum post: Tier 1 requires marquees 1–5 at 4 stars, and Kleya must be EL 45. (The other 4 have no EL 45 requirement.)
In-game newsletter and Journey Guide: Deedra, not Kleya, must be EL 45. (The other 4 have no EL 45 requirement.)
What changed is which character needs to be at EL 45. That goalpost moved. Do you see it now?
That difference is significant. For example, if it were still Kleya who must be EL 45, I'd be basically ready. My Kleya is already EL 46. I prioritized leveling her up because she's the most impactful character in Coliseum.
But since it's now Deedra who must be EL 45, I'm in a bit of a bind. I haven't been leveling her as much because the Rebel team does better in Coliseum than the ISB team. My Deedra is only EL 39. If I stop leveling anyone but Deedra, I think I can squeeze enough Era Currency out of the repeating bonus on the Episode Track to get Deedra to EL 45 before the event starts. But just barely. Others may not be so lucky and may need to spend on currency or resources.
- MasterSeedy3 days agoSeasoned Ace
Level 45 is the lowest requirement and incredibly easy to get. I already have 2 toons past level 45 entirely free to play and I will have no trouble getting Dedra to 45 while and the rest of them get to 55 next week when it's time to do the event.
Yes, it's a change. I don't know why they did that. Yes, it's annoying and no I'm not saying it's good.
I'm just saying that this isn't an evil money grab. No one needs to spend money to get Dedra to 45 before the event leaves. Not a pence or a penny or a yen.
Be annoyed if you like, but let's be realistic about how bad this really is, which is to say this is about as bad finding out a Conquest feat that was supposed to require 20 victories now requires 22. Like, okay. You don't have to be happy. But seriously this is not a big deal.
- ZanirN7S2 days agoSeasoned Ace
gufu21 wrote:
Forum post: Tier 1 requires marquees 1–5 at 4 stars, and Kleya must be EL 45. (The other 4 have no EL 45 requirement.)
No EL requirement is mentioned for the others. It doesn't necessarily mean that only Kleya is required. Why would you assume that you can unlock Cassian at 4* with only 1 Marquee upgraded? That's ridiculous.
gufu21 wrote:
get Deedra to EL 45 before the event starts.
You will have 4 weeks to unlock Cassian. 🤣
- gufu212 days agoSeasoned Ace
Incredibly easy by this point? I don't know about that. Mine are 46, 43, 40, and 39 (Dedra). I haven't missed any days or quests. If I've done the math correctly, if I never level anyone else, I will barely get Dedra only to EL 45 before the event starts.
But yeah, you make some good points. I did probably jump to conclusions about CG's intent. The first tier of the event is centered around Dedra, and they'd probably made that decision before Dedra was released.Your points are well taken. Still, I am annoyed. I'd ideally have liked some acknowledgement from CG like "Hey, I know we'd said before that Kleya would be needed at EL 45 for tier 1. But that ended up changing to Dedra, and for transparency's sake, we should have told you as soon as we knew so that you could prepare."
Maybe I'm just so ready to overreact because the last time, a lot of players, even the more moderate content creators, felt that CG was deliberately withholding information about the event so players couldn't prepare or make informed decisions. That may not be the case this time, though.
- gufu212 days agoSeasoned Ace
ZanirN7S wrote:
OP, I must be stupid, because I don't see conflicting information here.
Just answer this: In the post, the only character that must be EL 45 is Kleya. In game, the only character that must be EL 45 is Dedra. Can you admit that these pieces of information conflict? It's a simple question.
ZanirN7S wrote:
No EL requirement is mentioned for the others. It doesn't necessarily mean that only Kleya is required. Why would you assume that you can unlock Cassian at 4* with only 1 Marquee upgraded? That's ridiculous.
Correct, no EL requirement is mentioned for the others. Therefore, it does not exist. They only need to be 4 stars. I'm not assuming anything. I'm reading the actual text of the requirements: marquees 1–5 at 4 stars, one—before Kleya, now Dedra—must be EL 45.
ZanirN7S wrote:
You will have 4 weeks to unlock Cassian. 🤣
Fair. It's not a huge deal. Nothing about this would prevent anyone from getting him. But I've been hoarding crystals to get ready for the event, and I'd like to get Cassian right away to hopefully get more Era Currency, even if just for a little while before others catch up.
Look, there's not much to argue about. I probably overreacted. But I am annoyed at the moved goalpost. And I do think you're being very obtuse by denying that there's been any change or contradiction.
- MasterSeedy2 days agoSeasoned Ace
For clarity, I didn't mean that it was easy to have every one to L45 right now. I meant that it should be easy to get L45 by the time the eventy starts.
Although I am FTP I do spend a few hundred crystals on the very first toon each cycle to kick start things, and I play Coliseum seriously. I don't expect everyone to be where I am all the time (or I would work harder to stay ahead of the curve to keep collecting r10 mats), but the progression is built into the system and it's pretty easy to jump everyone up some amount each week. I imagine at L39-L46 you're still a touch ahead of the curve, but not much, and finishing somewhere in the 100 ranks, maybe 150-180. Is that about right?
As for being annoyed, I think you're right to be. I would much rather have accurate info than bad info. I just don't see any reason to panic. The event will be around for several weeks and everyone should get their toons to L55 before it ends. All the serious players should have most/all their toons above L60. Because of that, as bad info goes, needing someone at L45 before the end of an event where all the serious players will be L60 is just ... not that serious a problem.
Again, be annoyed! It was wrong info. My main disagreement was with the idea of this being a money grab. Non-serious players don't care enough to spend and serious players will have no trouble hitting well above L45 before the event ends, so we/they really don't have a reason to spend.
Have a good one.
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