What economy changes?

"kello_511;c-2187947" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2187683" wrote:

"GJO;c-2187652" wrote:
Hope they finally move crystals from arena to GAC. Since they'll never fix the two broken tier on ships.

This doesnt seem like its in the plans, as we have heard nothing about it since it was kind of mentioned. This seems like it would be a touchy subject for a lot of players and they probably thought best to avoid a very community breaking change.

The idea I see in a similar vein to this that could work, would be, not necessarily a change from one to the other, but an increased income from GAC. much like when they added ships and offered a new path to earn a decent amount of crystals. This would fall in line with economy changes, as an increased crystal income could help alleviate some of the gear stress, and lessen the need for other more drastic gear changes.

Did they specifically say that they intended to move crystal income away from arena and into other areas?

I think they are already making moves to shift the focus from arena in other ways:

Want zetas? You can’t buy them with crystals - focus on your fleet.

Want GAS or Malak? You need GET for them, crystals won’t do it.

Want to slice up your mods? Better focus on GC because you can’t get those other slicing mats otherwise.

Crystals are no longer the only viable currency in the game and focus on only arena is not sufficient to keep pace.

we can agree to disagree, but crystals are the most versatile and best overall thing to accumulate in this game.

edit to add: you can focus on maximizing your crystal income as your only goal, and you can do good in just about every other aspect of the game.

At one point they fielded a question about moving away from arena as a primary source of crystal income. that is all we have. They have not brought this up again and there have been changes to the team since then. so who knows at this point.

How bout increasing crystal rewards for fleet? One that gives rewards to more than just the top 50

"Kyno;c-2187962" wrote:

"kello_511;c-2187958" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2187948" wrote:

"kello_511;c-2187947" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2187683" wrote:

"GJO;c-2187652" wrote:
Hope they finally move crystals from arena to GAC. Since they'll never fix the two broken tier on ships.

This doesnt seem like its in the plans, as we have heard nothing about it since it was kind of mentioned. This seems like it would be a touchy subject for a lot of players and they probably thought best to avoid a very community breaking change.

The idea I see in a similar vein to this that could work, would be, not necessarily a change from one to the other, but an increased income from GAC. much like when they added ships and offered a new path to earn a decent amount of crystals. This would fall in line with economy changes, as an increased crystal income could help alleviate some of the gear stress, and lessen the need for other more drastic gear changes.

Did they specifically say that they intended to move crystal income away from arena and into other areas?

I think they are already making moves to shift the focus from arena in other ways:

Want zetas? You can’t buy them with crystals - focus on your fleet.

Want GAS or Malak? You need GET for them, crystals won’t do it.

Want to slice up your mods? Better focus on GC because you can’t get those other slicing mats otherwise.

Crystals are no longer the only viable currency in the game and focus on only arena is not sufficient to keep pace.

we can agree to disagree, but crystals are the most versatile and best overall thing to accumulate in this game.

edit to add: you can focus on maximizing your crystal income as your only goal, and you can do good in just about every other aspect of the game.

At one point they fielded a question about moving away from arena as a primary source of crystal income. that is all we have. They have not brought this up again and there have been changes to the team since then. so who knows at this point.

I don’t remember the exact wording of the statement. I know it was around shifting rewards/focus away from arena, but was it specifically about crystals?

I’m just pointing out that since that statement, they have introduced rewards (linked to other game modes besides arena) that you can’t buy with crystals.

There was a point before that where pretty much everything could be bought with crystals. That’s not the case anymore.

Yes, crystals remain very valuable but focusing your resources on a single arena team and ignoring everything else is no longer a viable strategy because you will lose out in those other areas.

And at the same time, those other game modes also help a lot with gearing. In fact the cost of many of the g12 pieces (eg. 5750 for a furnace) mean that I’m more likely to get them from other sources aside from crystals.

I thought it was, but maybe not.....but what else do we get from arena that players would want or care about getting shifted away from there.

yes, you can back track the cost of items gained to crystals, but those only payout that much when you actually get them. so a possible chance at a full piece from the sith raid (for example) may be more in theory, but in practice you can still work things out and stay more flexible reliably getting first in arena than you can always being first in the sith raid. just as an example.

I agree we have seen more sources of other stuff, but that requires widening your roster, which is harder to do without that source of income to help refill energy, quicken farming for both characters, gear and all the other mats you now need.

either way, I see your point that they have widened the focus of the players trying to keep up at the top end, but its still all based on a solid income from both arenas.

My take is that “shifting the focus” from arena maybe meant what I’m saying above - that other game modes would become relatively more important while arena rewards stay static.

As you said, more about widening our rosters rather than having a single maxed team or two be all that is needed.

I'm hoping that the restructuring is good for newer players. Having played an alt account, the gear crunch for new players is far worse.

I like some of the ideas mentioned above. But here are some of mine.

1. Reduce the price of shards in stores to 200 in the less used stores. This let's newer players b eff able to use the shard shop sooner and eases the gear crunch at all levels.

2. Add tiers to challenges. But make them beatable by players shortly after lvl 85 (not requiring relics). This could help everyone.

3. Reduce the price of shards in the get store. This helps new players get to the point where they can use it for shards sooner.

4. The marque guide to let people do marques they may have missed. (Kyno mentioned this but I have brought it up before).

5. Adjust the drop rates/prices for pre g13 gear. You can also adjust the amount needed for relic slicing to keep it from being to quick to relic characters to quickly. (This was mentioned before so not my original idea).

I'll add one more to my previous list.

6. Put signal data on more cantina nodes so newer players can farm it along with the 16 energy characters. That let's newer players continue a farm while still having a shot at relics. And for older players, they get a little more shard shop currency.

Stun guns and stun cuffs and golden eyes need to be cheaper and easier to obtain.

If legendaries now require relic 3 and galactic legends now require relics 3, 5, 6 and 7.... and that may be on a character with no real good use in game, then the lower than kyrotech needs to be plentiful.

Leave gear 12+ and finisher pieces the way they are. All the gear it takes to get to gear 12 needs to be plentiful.

Id also say og gear 12 should be easier to get than current.... but id be ok with no change there.

Then getting to gear 12 would be easier and getting to 13 would be the focus. Relic levels would then be a trade off for taking lesser used to gear 12 or often uses to r5.... as it should be

"Kyno;c-2189093" wrote:

"AlienOverlord;c-2189091" wrote:
My guess is that they have a new raid ready but like the gearing rate where it is, so they will bring Sith Raid rewards more in line with tank. Then the new raid will have great rewards, but only the top level, which only guilds with a min of 50 GLs will be able to beat. This seems more feasible than more gear and crystals going out to everyone.

Be prepared to have your mind blown.

Feel free to elaborate. Please. :)

Something terrible for sure.

"TVF;c-2189283" wrote:

"ShaggyB;c-2189247" wrote:
Stun guns and stun cuffs and golden eyes need to be cheaper and easier to obtain.

If legendaries now require relic 3 and galactic legends now require relics 3, 5, 6 and 7.... and that may be on a character with no real good use in game, then the lower than kyrotech needs to be plentiful.

Leave gear 12+ and finisher pieces the way they are. All the gear it takes to get to gear 12 needs to be plentiful.

Id also say og gear 12 should be easier to get than current.... but id be ok with no change there.

Then getting to gear 12 would be easier and getting to 13 would be the focus. Relic levels would then be a trade off for taking lesser used to gear 12 or often uses to r5.... as it should be

Stun cuffs are easy.

Stun guns too, provided you have finished your get1 farms and check the get and shard stores 4x daily every single day. I have two GLs and still have over 1700 stun gun salvage.

There's the problem for newer players. You get guns from shard shop and get store but new players have little to no shard shop currency and have 4 characters that take 6 mo each (all of which are important to have) to farm from get store before they can start utilizing the shop for gear.

Add to that the fact that they have more characters that need the gear and stars to reach end game content and you start to see the problem. Now, I'm not saying you should be able to beat end game content instantly but it shouldn't take multiple years to get there.

And they need to address this so that new players will actually join and play the game.

"jezmonster;c-2189498" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2189271" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189093" wrote:

"AlienOverlord;c-2189091" wrote:
My guess is that they have a new raid ready but like the gearing rate where it is, so they will bring Sith Raid rewards more in line with tank. Then the new raid will have great rewards, but only the top level, which only guilds with a min of 50 GLs will be able to beat. This seems more feasible than more gear and crystals going out to everyone.

Be prepared to have your mind blown.

Feel free to elaborate. Please. :)

I assume he's talking about the anniversary gifts coming this month.

Just think about how far those CWC shards will go!