Who benefits most from a DEF boost from a mod?

"Zooey;677318" wrote:

"J0K3R;677315" wrote:

"Zooey;677296" wrote:

"J0K3R;677279" wrote:

"Zooey;677271" wrote:
I'd say flat def mods on a low defense toon like Palpatine. QGJ might be the best example because he has decently high HP+Prot pool but naturally low armor. Defense also has diminishing returns iirc so while higher armor% toons might get more EHP out of each percent point, it takes a lot more defense to increase their armor. Would love to know the actual numbers though.

The diminishing returns dont exist at close examination. While it's true that the armor % doesn't go as high the higher it gets, it's effectiveness is constant and doesnt suffer diminishing returns (as i once thought and about 20min ago i proved myself wrong)

In that case, I guess hp+prot is pretty much the only factor to consider. Can you answer at threshold would a +15 defense secondary be better than a +5% prot secondary stat? Or at least give me the formula for me to work it out :p

You need to provide me the protection value before mods

Let's say 20k hp 20k protection.

edit: I found the post with the calculator btw.

"Zooey;677318" wrote:

"J0K3R;677315" wrote:

"Zooey;677296" wrote:

"J0K3R;677279" wrote:

"Zooey;677271" wrote:
I'd say flat def mods on a low defense toon like Palpatine. QGJ might be the best example because he has decently high HP+Prot pool but naturally low armor. Defense also has diminishing returns iirc so while higher armor% toons might get more EHP out of each percent point, it takes a lot more defense to increase their armor. Would love to know the actual numbers though.

The diminishing returns dont exist at close examination. While it's true that the armor % doesn't go as high the higher it gets, it's effectiveness is constant and doesnt suffer diminishing returns (as i once thought and about 20min ago i proved myself wrong)

In that case, I guess hp+prot is pretty much the only factor to consider. Can you answer at threshold would a +15 defense secondary be better than a +5% prot secondary stat? Or at least give me the formula for me to work it out :p

You need to provide me the protection value before mods

Let's say 20k hp 20k protection.

edit: I found the post with the calculator btw.

"Zooey;677338" wrote:
Ok, I used a maxed unmodded Anakin (18.9k hp, 21.1k prot, 209 armor), and found that +5% protection (1057.6) is just slightly better than +15 defense (1001.3)

"J0K3R;677346" wrote:
What are you using? The power value?

"J0K3R;677391" wrote:
His calculator doesnt have an option for protection, so I'm not entirely sure what you compared

Also, defense does not go as high as the numbers u stated ("1335 vs 1312")

"Zooey;677397" wrote:

"J0K3R;677391" wrote:
His calculator doesnt have an option for protection, so I'm not entirely sure what you compared

Also, defense does not go as high as the numbers u stated ("1335 vs 1312")

Sorry I should've clarified those are numbers for protection. 1335 = the equivalent amount of addition health or protection you would gain from the increase in +15 defense. I only used his calculator to find the increase in armor% as a result of +15 defense. And +5% protection would simply be the base protection * 1.05.

"J0K3R;677404" wrote:

"Zooey;677397" wrote:

"J0K3R;677391" wrote:
His calculator doesnt have an option for protection, so I'm not entirely sure what you compared

Also, defense does not go as high as the numbers u stated ("1335 vs 1312")

Sorry I should've clarified those are numbers for protection. 1335 = the equivalent amount of addition health or protection you would gain from the increase in +15 defense. I only used his calculator to find the increase in armor% as a result of +15 defense. And +5% protection would simply be the base protection * 1.05.

Are u using Jedi Knight Anakin?