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"sying;c-1697007" wrote:
I don’t know about dumpster fire. Bait and switch, maybe. Either way, you had to see this coming. A buddy of mine said when Revan came out that he wouldn’t be surprised if cg reworked Gen Greivous to be a Jedi killer. I thought that would be the case as well with all the clone wars talk. While that still could be the case, bfallen seems like a pretty good counter right out of the gate. I don’t mind it. In fact I welcome it. I’ve always liked sith more.
It's also possible that CG/EA simply didn't test Revan enough before his release and they made him a little too powerful. Bearing in mind that they have said several times that they made a mistake with CLS - making him too OP and that they wouldn't do that again, it's possible that they "over-tuned" Revan and then realized they needed to do something to reel him in just a bit. I realize it sounds like I'm giving CG the benefit of the doubt (in a Hanlon's razor-ish sort of way), but....that's what I'm doing.
Honestly, it still takes a very powerful and fast team around DSB to make her useful - and she is easily crushed on defense, so they really just made the rock and paper a bit tougher. Although it does make it rough for anyone running scissors. You shouldn't run with scissors anyway, but you get the point."SithTrio_PO;c-1697403" wrote:
Nikoms, in the video of who ? mine ? all i see is zzzRevan, and so is in the video and in the screenshots, it was a triple zeta revan, with a zeta Jolee, and zeta on GMY special. check again.
You're right. My bad - my eyes suffer from a disease my eye doctor calls "too many birthdays" ;)- I hope so
"CallumRM92;d-187573" wrote:
With Bastilla Shan Fallen being released do you think Sith will have more of a chance in competing against Revan?
No, the sith Meta was around a while now , i doubt they will upset the Revan having whales by making her the next Meta , itll be Malak that does that , cause hell need 5 marquees, 3 yet to be released, for the panic farm. Not one toon- Their excuse for any weird scheduling will be that we were all so sick of marquees one after the other, yknow when they stated that and changed the schedule to bring chewy out. Now people who invested in Jedi revan are gonna get screwed into an extremely short meta run I imagine.
OR
DS bastilla will just make traya-sith level with Revan so they can both be used which is still pretty sucky foe those that spent on revan - Ds toon release so soon after revan just doesn't make sense really.
- no. she can fit well in Jedi team lead by revan tho.
"Gorem;c-1696454" wrote:
It would be just like CG to do this to people, if she does counter Revan too well, lol. They made their money on Revan now, so they can continue to make money on people buying the Revan counter :D
This has been the cycle for awhile now. Put out an op p2p toon. Then put out soft counter p2p toons. I don't know why people are surprised by this."CCyrilS;c-1696503" wrote:
"SithTrio_PO;c-1696474" wrote:
no. she can fit well in Jedi team lead by revan tho.
How so?
the point is she wont beat revan. she have nothing on him. she have good debuffs to offer - Shock, Stun (Followed by great debuffs) and curropted BM. all those are nothing vs tenUp.
however i think her purpose is to kick out of the meta all the non Traya or non Revan teams, simple as that.
-60% counter chance and -60% CC on CLS, Han, JTR, BB-8, Nest, Chewbacca. this things means that whether you try to use against Revan, or against Traya, you'll barely do something.
with Traya that means -100% Crit chance. thats basically unkillable Sion and unkillable SiT in those attackers teams. with Revan, she gain the leadership bonuses. sure it will hurt the overall synergy of the team, but those debuffs are something the Jedi cant offer, and therefore a weak spot. Fallen bast can "fix" that weak spot.
Sith with fallen Bast won't be able to compete with Revan still. not reliably at least. but fallen bast with Revan have potential to deny Nest Cheese, and fallen bast with Traya means much much much harder life there vs all those attackers.
obviously, it just "potentially". we still need to see how well she inflict curropted BM, shock and stuns. really all depends in how well she inflict those debuffs. if full tenacity nest can still resist all of those debuffs - then fallen bast have no point really. in terms of tankiness, or damage, she have nothing to offer. all is utility, and her utility is debuffs.
so the TL;DR - she can fit well in Jedi team L by revan because combining her debuffs utility with GMY buffing utility can be extremely painful for any non-revan teams. (will still be easy for revan, she have no case there, really)- you know what. im mistaken.
BSF can do great vs revan. all she need is tanky traya, mass potency and be slower than sion. her defense bonus on Traya will allow Traya to survive the direct focus. going after Sion' AoE will make sure she'll inflict her debuffs. once she do that, shes great. she synergize well with Traya L because of potency bonus, and crit avoidance that will give defense to all. but must go AFTER sion.
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