Bastilla Shan Fallen... Sith back in the game?

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696474" wrote:
no. she can fit well in Jedi team lead by revan tho.

How so?

"CCyrilS;c-1696503" wrote:

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696474" wrote:
no. she can fit well in Jedi team lead by revan tho.

How so?

She has the OR tag, so essentially she gets Revan's lead. Which is funny, cause it means there is more toons now that can unlock Revan.

"CCyrilS;c-1696503" wrote:

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696474" wrote:
no. she can fit well in Jedi team lead by revan tho.

How so?

the point is she wont beat revan. she have nothing on him. she have good debuffs to offer - Shock, Stun (Followed by great debuffs) and curropted BM. all those are nothing vs tenUp.
however i think her purpose is to kick out of the meta all the non Traya or non Revan teams, simple as that.
-60% counter chance and -60% CC on CLS, Han, JTR, BB-8, Nest, Chewbacca. this things means that whether you try to use against Revan, or against Traya, you'll barely do something.
with Traya that means -100% Crit chance. thats basically unkillable Sion and unkillable SiT in those attackers teams. with Revan, she gain the leadership bonuses. sure it will hurt the overall synergy of the team, but those debuffs are something the Jedi cant offer, and therefore a weak spot. Fallen bast can "fix" that weak spot.
Sith with fallen Bast won't be able to compete with Revan still. not reliably at least. but fallen bast with Revan have potential to deny Nest Cheese, and fallen bast with Traya means much much much harder life there vs all those attackers.
obviously, it just "potentially". we still need to see how well she inflict curropted BM, shock and stuns. really all depends in how well she inflict those debuffs. if full tenacity nest can still resist all of those debuffs - then fallen bast have no point really. in terms of tankiness, or damage, she have nothing to offer. all is utility, and her utility is debuffs.
so the TL;DR - she can fit well in Jedi team L by revan because combining her debuffs utility with GMY buffing utility can be extremely painful for any non-revan teams. (will still be easy for revan, she have no case there, really)

you know what. im mistaken.
BSF can do great vs revan. all she need is tanky traya, mass potency and be slower than sion. her defense bonus on Traya will allow Traya to survive the direct focus. going after Sion' AoE will make sure she'll inflict her debuffs. once she do that, shes great. she synergize well with Traya L because of potency bonus, and crit avoidance that will give defense to all. but must go AFTER sion.

yea, i was mistaken.
let me correct. as said above, her utility is debuffs. problem is to inflict those. but if she go right after sion, no problem to inflict. traya give her potency, stack more potency and all good.
this is my team : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609057056620554/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-34-18-657_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
this is my bast : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609055584288768/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-33-22-155_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512611600398680074/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-55-14-713_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
as you can see... g8, 3*, one omega, high potency, bad speed (she need to go AFTER sion)
ended up like this vs a guy who i consider top5 team in my shard. an obvious, strong counter. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609056238862348/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-37-18-847_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png


so yea, i was wrong. she can counter vs Revan. just need tanky traya, and faster Sion. then DN do his thing perfectly, while bast cripples them all. enjoy.

Can y'all stop with the "Sith back in the game" "Sith great again?" "Bastilla Shan Fallen the missing link for sith ?" blah blah blah

Sith have been meta like 4 times already and they are STILL meta, they are one of the few faction that can beat Revan, you got Sion, Nihilus, Traya, palpatine, Sith Trooper, BS Fallen, Maul, you got DV that can solo rancor and HAAT, a SITH Raid, 4 ships and 2 of these have been META since the appearance of ship arena (Scimitar and Tie Advanced) ... Every year new siths are being released, strong toons every time (Let's just forget about Marauder) ... you've got 2 of the most broken mechanics in the game (Annihilation, Isolation) and the best debuff that only sith can apply (Shock) ...

What do you need more ? An unbeatable sith team that can win every battle in 5 second ? A Sith capital Ship that has an AoE Thrawn ultimate at turn 1 ? What do you need to be happy ?

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696582" wrote:
yea, i was mistaken.
let me correct. as said above, her utility is debuffs. problem is to inflict those. but if she go right after sion, no problem to inflict. traya give her potency, stack more potency and all good.
this is my team : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609057056620554/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-34-18-657_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
this is my bast : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609055584288768/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-33-22-155_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512611600398680074/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-55-14-713_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
as you can see... g8, 3*, one omega, high potency, bad speed (she need to go AFTER sion)
ended up like this vs a guy who i consider top5 team in my shard. an obvious, strong counter. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609056238862348/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-37-18-847_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png


so yea, i was wrong. she can counter vs Revan. just need tanky traya, and faster Sion. then DN do his thing perfectly, while bast cripples them all. enjoy.

Do you really need that much potency? Revan gives himself 20% and others 10% tenacity; other than jolee, there's not much other tenacity on a revan team and debuffing Jolee doesn't seem like a high enough priority to sacrifice other stats.

The amount of potency you have only becomes useful with 175%+ tenacity.

well, bast is all about debuffs. i dont care from her speed, i dont care from her offense, i dont care from her tankiness (its offense, i gonna use for TW vs revan). whats left? just potency. i dont care if its overkill actually. and if i could sacrifice 10 speed for mroe 10 potency, i would do that actually. because thats all she needs.
video coming soon, i'll share here.

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696594" wrote:
well, bast is all about debuffs. i dont care from her speed, i dont care from her offense, i dont care from her tankiness (its offense, i gonna use for TW vs revan). whats left? just potency. i dont care if its overkill actually. and if i could sacrifice 10 speed for mroe 10 potency, i would do that actually. because thats all she needs.
video coming soon, i'll share here.

I suppose, but adding another 10 potency would do literally nothing to help you land more debuffs

when fighting Jolee, it might help. depends on the Jolee tenacity. i fought vs one with 50% tenacity (before the 100% bonus). if i face vs one with 80% tenacity ? i rather overkill on potency than overkill on speed in that case. i dont think that much potency is useless. it MAYBE have use. depends against who. and since the plan is to use on TW offense to counter revan, gotta be ready for anything.