Best Defensive Team? GW/Arena

Why GW defense?

"VanKings22;c-1636889" wrote:
Why GW defense?

I guess TW Defense not GW Defense. Maybe just typo.

By the way, NS with Talzin zeta lead and Jedi with Bastila Zeta lead are one of the most dominent squads in TW Defense from my experiences.

Sorry I did mean TW. I'm under the impression that NS with a Asajj lead and paper zombie is better than Talzin lead

A few things:

1. Nightsisters are horrible on defense. Any equivalent Imperial Troopers squad can take them out on auto just about. In lower gp guilds they may be ok because your opponents don’t have Troopers, but in any decent gp guild they are strictly an offensive team. We don’t even allow NS on defense in TW due to how poorly they perform. Conversely they are great on offense for taking out JTR and Bastila teams.
2. Those CLS teams with a ton of defense are usually because someone screws up and leaves a solo CLS alive, and then people throw mediocre teams against a solo CLS not realizing a solo CLS can take entire teams.
3. First Order are great defensively in TW because of the bonuses they get. We get a lot of FO teams with multiple defenses. Bounty Hunters are great defensively as well because of the bonuses and people don’t usually know what to play against them. Good FO and BH teams that is. Neither one performs well defensively in arena though.
4. At the moment there isn’t anything other than Traya that holds well defensively. There are too many counters. You basically just have to stick with the meta which is Traya, Bastila, and to a lesser degree, Nightmare though Nightmare is currently phasing out of the meta.

"Ikky2win;c-1637178" wrote:

2. Those CLS teams with a ton of defense are usually because someone screws up and leaves a solo CLS alive, and then people throw mediocre teams against a solo CLS not realizing a solo CLS can take entire teams.

Exactly. And thats a great thing! Lots of defensr points and wasted toons.
So you should put a strong Cls in a weak team.. So they underestimate it - just like I said :)

@ikky2win: when you say nightsisters are horrible on defense are you taking into account Asajj with the paper zombie?

"Ninjah9;c-1637450" wrote:
@ikky2win: when you say nightsisters are horrible on defense are you taking into account Asajj with the paper zombie?

Yes. Troopers are too hard of a counter against nightsisters and Troopers are too common of a team. Plus, nightsisters can punch well above their weight on offense. They are a hard counter to JTR and do well against Bastila, amongst other teams. If you’re a newer guild facing other newer guilds that don’t have Troopers then maybe you could put them on defense, but otherwise they are just going to get mowed down.

Just google imperial troopers vs nightsisters. There are a ton of videos showing them demolishing nightsisters in seconds.

Yea I guess they do get the bonuses. Not stoked about having to use the FO but luckily I built up KRU for ships

We've just the enemy take 28 attempts at a zbastila, zbarriss, zgmy, gk & ezra squad. Still got the first 3 standing, with the first 2 full health & protection.

"CHFC22;c-1637730" wrote:
We've just the enemy take 28 attempts at a zbastila, zbarriss, zgmy, gk & ezra squad. Still got the first 3 standing, with the first 2 full health & protection.

I think this is a lower gp vs higher gp thing. Most higher gp guilds should have plenty to take out squads like that. In fact, Qira lead plus Nest can take that team out and Qira doesn’t even need to be geared. She can die turn 1 and Nest will solo the team. Lower gp guilds will have issues though.