JKA immediate refunds

They explicitly stated that if you were solely gearing JKA based on that, then to hold back until his full kit was released with Padme coming. He will still be a very powerful character under Padme, likely even more so than he currently is under JKR.

Yes they specifically stated that BEFORE announcing that they will not be changing his kit.

"So, while we are not planning on making any immediate changes due to the interaction with Darth Revan and Darth Malak, we are continuing to consider some changes to ensure his performance under Padme meets our desired performance targets. Some of the changes we are considering would make him synergize more specifically inside a Galactic Republic squad (as many players have suggested). Either way, we’ll continue to monitor these battles and reveal any changes prior to making them."

Have you read this sequence by any chance? Or you saw only what you wanted to see and ignored the rest?

Looks like nobody listened to you. Why did Darth Revan become the meta :D

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1816114/#Comment_1816114

"BobcatSkywalker;c-1850766" wrote:
Anakin as a character is getting a buff... you can't use him in a jkr team.

They buffed Finn and Hk too its all perspective if you just focus on the character and not the team it's a buff.

Except that Anakin is now fairly useless in ANY team except GR - not just JKR. And the worse part of it is that it may take CG months of releases and reworks to make a GR team that is realistically viable in any palatable form. So not only do those who have geared JKA have to gear/level enough characters to get Padme. They also have to gear/level Padme....all to get the same performance out of Anakin they were already getting. And all the while hoping that GR becomes viable in the coming weeks/months and doesn't receive any additional nerfs. That's a nerf no matter your "perspective".

The larger issue here is that p2p players are starting to lose confidence in CG's ability to be honest and do what's right. That means less spending (not more - which I'm sure is CG's goal). People don't like paying to support someone they feel is lying and deceiving them. We lost more people from our launch guild this past week - and this is only going to add to the ill will. The decision CG Carrie and her team are making about how to manipulate the player base through nerfs and deception is disappointing to a great many players.

Sewing seeds of mistrust and discord with your paying and most loyal players doesn't bode well for the long-term health of the game.

"RandomSithLord;c-1850730" wrote:
"So, while we are not planning on making any immediate changes due to the interaction with Darth Revan and Darth Malak, we are continuing to consider some changes to ensure his performance under Padme meets our desired performance targets. Some of the changes we are considering would make him synergize more specifically inside a Galactic Republic squad (as many players have suggested). Either way, we’ll continue to monitor these battles and reveal any changes prior to making them."

Have you read this sequence by any chance? Or you saw only what you wanted to see and ignored the rest?

I expected Anakin to get additional / better synergy with the GR faction when I read this announcement. And since it was clear that he would be getting a zeta, it wasn't unreasonable to assume that his zeta ability would add this synergy without altering his performance under JKR (which, after all, was completely in line with etc. pp. according to the earlier paragraph).

I see now after the fact that it can be read differently, but I don't think (m)any players read the announcement that way. We were too relieved about the paragraph that Ninjah quoted to read the above part as anything other than "we'll strengthen his synergy with Padme in addition to his current kit".

I even understand why CG thought the bonus damage of his unique needed to be restricted to the GR faction after someone had the unironically brilliant idea to pair JKA with NS Zombie. But the way they're going about this change is terrible. Instead of changing the bonus damage part to "If the ally in question was Galactic Republic", they made it impossible to plug a toon like Thrawn or Nest into a GR squad without crippling Anakin.

I find it really difficult to work up any excitement about Padme and the entire GR faction in the light of this unnecessary restrictiveness. All things considered, both JKA's and Ahsoka's final version will be less useful and versatile than before unless we (a) use them together on a GR squad, (b) cripple our JKR team in GA and TW by removing GK so he can boost Ahsoka's damage, (c) invest heavily in GG + droids and undertake the arduous task of unlocking Padme, (d) go through the equally arduous process of gearing her, and (e) accept the fact that we can never use a plug'n'play toon with this faction. I think I'd rather not bother with Padme, leave my GK with JKR, and write off Anakin and Ahsoka as "rather useless outside of fleet" (even more so than before).

"Nikoms565;c-1850797" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-1850766" wrote:
Anakin as a character is getting a buff... you can't use him in a jkr team.

They buffed Finn and Hk too its all perspective if you just focus on the character and not the team it's a buff.

Except that Anakin is now fairly useless in ANY team except GR - not just JKR. And the worse part of it is that it may take CG months of releases and reworks to make a GR team that is realistically viable in any palatable form. So not only do those who have geared JKA have to gear/level enough characters to get Padme. They also have to gear/level Padme....all to get the same performance out of Anakin they were already getting. And all the while hoping that GR becomes viable in the coming weeks/months and doesn't receive any additional nerfs. That's a nerf no matter your "perspective".

The larger issue here is that p2p players are starting to lose confidence in CG's ability to be honest and do what's right. That means less spending (not more - which I'm sure is CG's goal). People don't like paying to support someone they feel is lying and deceiving them. We lost more people from our launch guild this past week - and this is only going to add to the ill will. The decision CG Carrie and her team are making about how to manipulate the player base through nerfs and deception is disappointing to a great many players.

Sewing seeds of mistrust and discord with your paying and most loyal players doesn't bode well for the long-term health of the game.

You mean he synergies with only one faction (and the largest one or one of the largest in the game I think)? Like phoenix, clones, ewoks, FO, Jawas, Geos, OR, Sith Empire, and most Scoundrels, BH, and Resistance?

There should be no surprise here. Its how most factions are. And then they suggested they would do it again after his initial rework.

I personally think they limited the wrong toon, but it should not be a suprise that the game gets tweaked and its necessary for the health of the game.

IMHO.

"RandomSithLord;c-1850730" wrote:
"So, while we are not planning on making any immediate changes due to the interaction with Darth Revan and Darth Malak, we are continuing to consider some changes to ensure his performance under Padme meets our desired performance targets. Some of the changes we are considering would make him synergize more specifically inside a Galactic Republic squad (as many players have suggested). Either way, we’ll continue to monitor these battles and reveal any changes prior to making them."

Have you read this sequence by any chance? Or you saw only what you wanted to see and ignored the rest?

So on April 25th they announced there would be no immediate changes to Anakin’s interaction with Malak, and then on April 30th they announce that they are nerfing multiple squads that use Anakin to beat Malak. In a game where it takes weeks/months of resources to get a character Arena ready, I would consider 5 days to be pretty immediate. If I had invested resources into him and was relying on that team I’d be livid as well.

"Bulldog1205;c-1850939" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1850802" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1850798" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-1850730" wrote:
"So, while we are not planning on making any immediate changes due to the interaction with Darth Revan and Darth Malak, we are continuing to consider some changes to ensure his performance under Padme meets our desired performance targets. Some of the changes we are considering would make him synergize more specifically inside a Galactic Republic squad (as many players have suggested). Either way, we’ll continue to monitor these battles and reveal any changes prior to making them."

Have you read this sequence by any chance? Or you saw only what you wanted to see and ignored the rest?

I expected Anakin to get additional / better synergy with the GR faction when I read this announcement. And since it was clear that he would be getting a zeta, it wasn't unreasonable to assume that his zeta ability would add this synergy without altering his performance under JKR (which, after all, was completely in line with etc. pp. according to the earlier paragraph).

I see now after the fact that it can be read differently, but I don't think (m)any players read the announcement that way. We were too relieved about the paragraph that Ninjah quoted to read the above part as anything other than "we'll strengthen his synergy with Padme in addition to his current kit".

I even understand why CG thought the bonus damage of his unique needed to be restricted to the GR faction after someone had the unironically brilliant idea to pair JKA with NS Zombie. But the way they're going about this change is terrible. Instead of changing the bonus damage part to "If the ally in question was Galactic Republic", they made it impossible to plug a toon like Thrawn or Nest into a GR squad without crippling Anakin.

I find it really difficult to work up any excitement about Padme and the entire GR faction in the light of this unnecessary restrictiveness. All things considered, both JKA's and Ahsoka's final version will be less useful and versatile than before unless we (a) use them together on a GR squad, (b) cripple our JKR team in GA and TW by removing GK so he can boost Ahsoka's damage, (c) invest heavily in GG + droids and undertake the arduous task of unlocking Padme, (d) go through the equally arduous process of gearing her, and (e) accept the fact that we can never use a plug'n'play toon with this faction. I think I'd rather not bother with Padme, leave my GK with JKR, and write off Anakin and Ahsoka as "rather useless outside of fleet" (even more so than before).

Exactly. Not only are the nerfing JKA, they are, ironically, "pre-nerfing" the entire faction by making them fairly useless apart and not allowing other non-faction characters to work well in the team. At the same time, they are also greatly restricting player creativity, strategy and innovation.

If CG just wants to play the game for us, by prescribing play and eliminating player creativity, and simply wants to sell us the newest meta "rock" every month, this game is going to unravel quickly.

Im not saying it’s necessarily good or bad, but it’s kind of the opposite of how the game was originally designed. Early on they talked about wanting us to use teams that weren’t possible anywhere else.

I would assume the change is at least in part to the extreme power creep. These new characters are so powerful and complicated that you have to restrict who they work with, otherwise you open up endless possibilities that are difficult to test against. By controlling the possible combinations they increase the odds of getting the exact power result they want.

In their defense, there was a time when synergy didn't really matter and you could just group the most powerfull characters together and have one of the best arena teams.
IIRC they have stated they wanted synergy to matter more, in which they succeeded and maybe went a bit overboard due to the reason you're giving in the 2nd paragraph.
End of the day there's something to be said for being able to mix and match or having to be more synergy oriented. Both have their upsides. When it doesn't go your way in arena and it's all synergy, you'd feel like you need to be able to mix and match, not being able to do so limits your ability to enjoy the game. When it doesn't go your win in arena and it's all mix and match, you'd feel like synergy should matter more because just facing the most powerfull non-synergy team is lame. And vice versa ofcourse, if it does go your way in arena you don't want it to change.
I'm convinced people just look for reasons they don't like something eventhough the real reason is almost always their personal performance.

no refunds youll have to deal.