omg i haven't even thought of that, The Sims 2 used to had soccer (kind of) i hope we can get that back

at first i was thinking about bikes but we already have them in The Sims 4 haha :D
(same with ice-skating since we're so good at it but we already have them in seasons if i'm not wrong)

can't speak for other countries but where i'm from we have modern houses, i don't think we have one other then Del Sol Valley maybe
modern apartments too, i'm so in for more modern options in The Sims 4 worlds 🙂
(i don't live in one but modern houses and apartments are there in The Netherlands)

i'm so in for Soccer in the game since we don't have any

Does Nordhaven count?

that's technically based on Sweden actually but i understand where this comes from because everybody thought it was gonna be based on The Netherlands and i'm one of those people (Amsterdam in particular)

but aside from Sweden i admit it's a bit of a mix with Denmark, Norway, a bit of Finland and a bit of The Netherlands

I'm Dutch too, not sure if it would be something for a full expansion since I'd really expect a lot of content there but maybe a game pack with a world that adds more than like 4 lots. It could have two regions with several lots: An Amsterdam style city region with a few classic Amsterdam style houses as well as a cafe to visit and there could be an open market in the street now and then where you can buy various stuff and there could be some street performers. 

The second region could be outside of the city with more of a farm theme, with windmills and tulip fields around. It could be a very pretty and colourful place. There could be a miller NPC to interact with, to buy grain from to bake your own bread. 

Cheese making could be a new thing you could do in this pack, a new skill with new objects, along with a cold storage to put your cheeses and let them ripen. If you have cottage living you could use dairy from your cows for it, but here you can buy that from a farmer too. It should have something special you could do with it at a high level though, like making some special cheeses with unique effects. One could have a disgusting smell and cause sims who eat it to also spread that smell until they do something to get rid of that. Another cheese could be deadly if eaten, and be for display purposes only, increasing in value over time. Yet another could be addictive, eat it and your sim will want to eat all the cheese on the lot until that moodlet expires, getting sad if there's no cheese to eat or you won't let them eat it. It could also be possible to construct some things out of cheese. 

Clogs could also be created at the woodworking table as a new option, an alternative woodworking table could be added too since there's still only one since the base game. It would unlock the option in CAS to wear wooden clogs in various designs. 

Fierljeppen could also be done in the farm area: Using a long pole to vault over a waterway. Would require a high enough athletic skill, otherwise your sim falls in the water. It could be a short cut on one place to get around faster, and elsewhere with a longer more difficult jump it could lead to a hidden little swamp area. Could be a swamp monster there during certain hours at night that your sims could try to avoid. It could spread a nasty sickness to them that could be deadly if not cured, but this area could also have some interesting ingredients only found there. Like the cure for that disease and something to make one of the rarest cheeses. 

Stingy could be a new trait introduced, sims who hate wasting money or hate wasting anything really. They prefer cheap furniture and items, will never tip and could have a lot to say about other sims being wasteful with money. Are very happy with anything free though, but purchasing any expensive item could give them a negative moodlet. And it would stack so the more you spend, the worse it gets and the longer it lasts. When out on a date or on other outings with other sims, they can suggest going Dutch, each paying for themselves. The stingy sim is no mooch. 

Complainer could be another new trait, also very fitting for our culture. (also we seriously need more negative traits.) The complainer is not mean or sad, but they certainly have strong feelings about, well, anything. They need to vent, online, in person, on social media. Other complainer sims could enjoy that exchange. Whenever something bad happens to them, they will not let it go, their negative moodlets last longer but that time does get reduced when they get to vent about it. Watching news could also get them really riled up, they would get angry just from watching that. On the plus side, they are very open to listening to other sims vent or complain. To them that's welcome communication. It helps them build up relationships faster. 

Nonchalant could be a less negative new trait though that also fits us Dutch. These sims react with a shrug to whatever weird thing happens around them and just go about their business. Like they have seen it all already. They would way more often be in the neutral 'fine' emotional state, they could require like 3 points in any emotion before it kicks in for them, so would also not so easily switch moods. Some other sims might find them uncaring though, so some interactions might be more likely to go poorly when directed at these sims. Like propose to them and they'll still act casual, like it's just another tuesday. 

Soccer could also be brought back through this pack, Sims could play soccer, it could be added as a new career. Would just require athletic skill and nothing new there, but Sims can now also play soccer when outside. Watching a soccer match could also be a whole thing, maybe a new kind of party to host for Sims with friends. Athletic and Bro sims could really go nuts with that. 

you're probably right about making it a game pack instead of expansion pack and omg some ideas made me laugh like the monster and the cheese part, i'd love to have a cheese making aspiration

i love the Dutch game options like Fierljeppen

i'm totally cool with 2 new death types

the more personalities the better, we need more negative and neutral personality traits since most of them have positive personality traits and i've thought about the complainer personality trait too and i have to admit i'm one of those people so i might add that to my simself if this pack idea comes out🤣🤣👍

the other 2 personalities i hate to admit it but i totally agree, we Dutch people don't care about anything at times (nonchalant) and despite me hating the other personality trait i'd like to have them in The Sims 4 especially since non-Dutch people get to learn more about the culture from The Netherlands😆😆👍

i'd love to have a football career and yes i love this new kind of party option😄😄👍

i'm totally in for your ideas😍😍

oh i forgot to mention i'd like to have 1 side based on a city and the other more of like a farm side of the world
we definitely need stuff you've mentioned, maybe even a open market kind of venue or lot trait

you should definitely add that topic based on The Netherlands in your version😉😉

Thanks, a cheese making aspiration would certainly be fun to have too. 

And I always like to have a bit of a supernatural element and some chaos stuff in every pack, to keep things lively. We may not have swamp monsters here but we do have swamps so something like that could be fun to have. 🙂

no problem, i love your ideas, i've been thinking of creating Clogs in this pack idea
we have Nifty Knitting for clothes making, few small items and a hat

and as a Stuff Pack called Crystal Creation you can create things you've found like creating a ring
in some other packs we can create other stuff like servos

but we don't have any single stuff about the shoes types so i'd love to create Clogs in this pack idea

we also need some strange things like a swamp monster you've mentioned

thefirsttemplar​

i shared your ideas in the ChatGPT and it shared like this:

New World: “Noorderzee”

Split into two regions:

1. Canal District (Amsterdam-inspired)

• Classic Amsterdam-style townhouses with narrow facades and gabled roofs.
• Open market events with street vendors (flowers, cheese, trinkets).
• Street performers (musicians, living statues, fire breathers).
• A canal cafe lot (new lot type?) where Sims can hang out, date, and grab Dutch treats.
• Optional canal boating or just canal view ambiance.

2. Tulip Fields (Dutch Countryside)

• Windmills, farms, and tulip-covered lots.
• Interactions with farmer and miller NPCs.
• A bakery lot or market stall to sell your cheese, bread, and farm produce.
• Fierljeppen shortcut/mini-game leading to a secret swamp lot.

New Skill: Cheesemaking

• Levels up like gardening or gourmet cooking.
• Base levels allow fresh cheese, while higher levels unlock:
  • Aged cheeses (in a new cold storage/ripening shelf object).
  • Cottage Living integration: use cow milk or buy dairy locally.
  • Special cheeses:
    • Stinky Cheese: affects hygiene of anyone who eats it.
    • Deadly Cheese: for decor only; gains value over time.
    • Addictive Cheese: Sims develop a temporary craving.
    • Magic Cheese: Ingredient for potions or emotional boosts?

New Crafting: Wooden Clogs

• New woodworking bench variant with Dutch patterns.
• Craft clogs as shoes (unlocks in CAS) or as decor.
• Clogs could have trait-based interactions or even improve fun on farm lots when worn!

New Activity: Fierljeppen

• Requires Athletic skill (like rock climbing or skiing).
• Quick shortcut or hidden-access feature (adds strategy).
• Risk of failure = soaked or sick Sim.
• Secret swamp:
  • Only accessible via successful jump.
  • Rare flora, cure ingredients, and cheese-making materials.
  • Occasional swamp creature (timed like the hermit lot from Granite Falls).

Soccer Gameplay

• Return of the soccer ball from previous Sims games.
• Playable soccer mini-matches with goals and teams.
• New Soccer Fan Party event.
• Soccer Career:
  • Focused on fitness.
  • Optional fame tie-in if Get Famous is installed.

Traits (Very Culturally Grounded!)

1. Stingy

• Hates wasting money, refuses to tip.
• Loves free stuff.
• Suggests going Dutch on outings (new social interaction).
• Penalty for expensive purchases = stacking negative moodlets.

2. Complainer

• Not mean or sad, but emotionally reactive.
• Builds social connection through shared venting.
• Negative emotions linger longer unless vented.
• Gets angry from news watching — realistic and hilarious.

3. Nonchalant

• “Fine” is their default. Less prone to emotional swings.
• Unshakable even during big events (like proposals or death).
• Could lead to misunderstanding in relationships (others think they're cold).

Lot Traits & Object Ideas

• Cheese Cellar: Lot trait for aging cheese faster.
• Dutch Market Stall: Sell cheese, clogs, tulips.
• Windmill Object: Functional with animations, possibly energy producing.
• Clog Rack: Place and display created clogs.

 Final Thoughts

You’ve got something here that genuinely feels like The Sims: Dutch Living or Fromage & Fields — it’s beautifully thematic, gameplay-rich, and leans into Dutch culture without being caricatured.

If EA wanted to do more culturally grounded packs like Snowy Escape or Horse Ranch, this would fit in perfectly. I could even see it being a full expansion if you added something like:

• A “Dutch Holiday” calendar event.
• Unique festivals like King’s Day.
• Bicycle commuting and dedicated bike lanes (YES!).

Culturally Themed Names

These highlight Dutch identity and iconic imagery:

• The Sims 4: Dutch Delights
• The Sims 4: Life in the Lowlands
• The Sims 4: Windmills & Waterways
• The Sims 4: From Clogs to Canals
• The Sims 4: Tulips & Traditions
• The Sims 4: Netherlands Living
• The Sims 4: Dutch Days

Food and Craft Focus

For a cheesemaking, woodworking, and farm-style pack:

• The Sims 4: Aged to Perfection
• The Sims 4: Curd & Craft
• The Sims 4: Farmhouse Flavors
• The Sims 4: Wheel of Life
• The Sims 4: Clogs & Curds
• The Sims 4: Cheese & Charm

Countryside + City Mix

To capture both the Amsterdam-style city and rural tulip-filled fields:

• The Sims 4: Fields & Facades
• The Sims 4: Town & Tulip
• The Sims 4: Urban Windmill
• The Sims 4: Canal & Country
• The Sims 4: Two Worlds, One Windmill
• The Sims 4: Flower & Stone

Playful or Pun-Based Names

These are more lighthearted or cheeky:

• The Sims 4: Gouda Life
• The Sims 4: Going Dutch
• The Sims 4: The Gouda Place
• The Sims 4: Say Cheese!
• The Sims 4: That’s the Way the Clog Crumbles
• The Sims 4: Mooi Life (“Mooi” = beautiful in Dutch)

okay this is based on what ChatGTP said when asking for that pack ideas (now i know there was a version from a few hours ago but i couldn't edit it for whatever reasons so i had to copy this one first before i could delete the other one, my apology)

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Expansion Pack: The Sims 4: Life in the Lowlands

Overview: Explore the picturesque canals, cycle-friendly cities, and rich cultural life of the Netherlands. Sims can live in a compact urban neighborhood or a quiet polder village surrounded by tulip fields and windmills.

Key Features:

• New World: Groenstad – A Dutch city with canals, modern flats, historic gabled houses, countryside with tulip farms, and dykes.
• Transportation: Bicycles as a primary mode – Sims ride bikes more naturally, can teach kids to ride, and join community cycling events.
• Jobs:
  • Florist Entrepreneur – Run your own flower shop with tulips and Dutch bouquets.
  • Bike Courier – A fast-paced delivery career in the city.
  • Museum Curator – Work in a Dutch-style art museum.
• Events:
  • King’s Day Festival – Celebrate with orange clothing, music, markets, and games.
  • Canal Ice Skating (Winter) – Sims skate on frozen canals when it gets cold.
• Farming Add-on: Small tulip farms, greenhouses, or cheese-making mini-lots.
• New Traits:
  • Practical – Likes solutions, hates clutter.
  • Eco-Lover – Biking, recycling, and green energy make them happy.
• New Lot Types:
  • Canal Houseboat (Liveable lots floating on water)
  • Bike Café – Social space for cyclists and coffee lovers.

Theme: Urban canals, countryside charm, windmills, and tulip fields.

 Urban Canal Homes (Amsterdam-inspired)

• Gabled Canal Houses: Narrow townhouses with ornate stepped or bell gables.
• Colors: Deep browns, reds, and whites with large front windows.
• Details: Flower boxes, bikes parked out front, clotheslines, roof terraces.
• Lot Ideas:
  • Row of canal houses with working apartments.
  • Boathouse floating lot (like converted canal barges).

 Dutch Countryside (Polder region)

• Farmhouses: Long, low houses with red-tiled roofs and attached barns.
• Landscape: Flat terrain, water ditches, wooden bridges, and dykes.
• Lot Ideas:
  • Tulip Farm – rows of bright flowers with greenhouses.
  • Windmill Home – a converted mill as a cozy country residence.

 Community Builds

• Bike Café – Cozy coffee spot with outdoor seating and bike racks.
• Ice Skating Rink (Seasonal) – On frozen canal lots.
• Community Garden – Urban green space with produce and flowers.

Theme: Urban canals, countryside charm, windmills, and tulip fields.

 Urban Canal Homes (Amsterdam-inspired)

Floor Plan Features:

• Narrow, Tall Structures: Typically 2–4 stories with steep staircases.
• Ground Floor: Open-plan living area with large front windows overlooking the canal.
• Upper Floors: Bedrooms and bathrooms; consider adding a study or art studio.
• Attic: Often used for storage or additional living space.

Design Tips:

• Gabled Facades: Use decorative roof trims to mimic stepped or bell gables.
• Color Palette: Deep browns, reds, and whites with contrasting window frames.
• Details: Flower boxes, bicycles parked out front, and clotheslines add authenticity.

Lot Ideas:

• Row of Canal Houses: Create a street with multiple connected homes.
• Boathouse: Design a floating home on the canal with a cozy interior.

 Dutch Countryside (Polder Region)

Floor Plan Features:

• Single-Story Farmhouses: Long, low structures with attached barns.
• Central Living Area: Spacious kitchen and dining area.
• Bedrooms: Located on either end of the house for privacy.

Design Tips:

• Red-Tiled Roofs: Use roofing materials that reflect traditional Dutch farmhouses.
• Landscaping: Incorporate flat terrain, water ditches, wooden bridges, and dykes.
• Decor: Wooden beams, antique furniture, and warm lighting for a "gezellig" atmosphere.

Lot Ideas:

• Tulip Farm: Rows of colorful flowers with greenhouses and a small market stall.
• Windmill Home: Convert a windmill into a unique residence.

 Community Builds

Lot Ideas:

• Bike Café: A cozy coffee spot with outdoor seating and bike racks.
• Ice Skating Rink: Seasonal lot on a frozen canal.
• Community Garden: Urban green space with produce and flowers.

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Game Pack: Dutch Traditions

Focus: Cultural heritage and family-oriented Dutch customs.

Features:

• Holiday Traditions: Celebrate Sinterklaas with gift-giving, poems, and spiced cookies.
• New Skills:
  • Cheese-Making – Create Gouda and Edam.
  • Speed Skating – Compete or just skate for fun.
• Home Styles: Dutch interiors with minimalist design or traditional Delft patterns.
• New Recipes: Stroopwafels, poffertjes, pea soup (erwtensoep), raw herring.

Theme: Historical culture, festive events, and cozy traditions.

 Traditional Dutch Village

• Houses: Brick homes with shutters, thatched or tiled roofs.
• Decor: Wooden shoes by the door, Delft blue tiles, striped awnings.
• Lot Ideas:
  • Sinterklaas House: Decorated for the holiday, cozy and candlelit.
  • Folk Festival Grounds: Stage, food stalls, craft tables, and games.
  • Cheese Shop & Market Stall: Small commercial lot with counters and cheese wheels.

 Holiday & Culture

• Event-Lots:
  • King’s Day Square – bright orange decorations, markets, buskers.
  • Tulip Parade Route – Flower floats, petals on the street.
• Interior Style:
  • Antique furniture, open hearths, wooden beams.
  • Warm lighting, lace curtains, low ceilings for that "gezellig" vibe.

Theme: Historical culture, festive events, and cozy traditions.

Traditional Dutch Village

Floor Plan Features:

• Brick Homes: Compact structures with shutters and thatched or tiled roofs.
• Interior Layout: Separate rooms for living, dining, and sleeping areas.
• Decor: Wooden shoes by the door, Delft blue tiles, and striped awnings.

Lot Ideas:

• Sinterklaas House: Decorated for the holiday with cozy interiors.
• Folk Festival Grounds: Stage, food stalls, craft tables, and games.
• Cheese Shop & Market Stall: Small commercial lot with counters and cheese wheels.

Holiday & Culture

Event-Lots:

• King’s Day Square: Bright orange decorations, markets, and street performers.
• Tulip Parade Route: Flower floats and petal-strewn streets.

Interior Style:

• Antique Furniture: Incorporate heirloom pieces and vintage decor.
• Warm Lighting: Use candles and low-hanging lights for ambiance.
• Textiles: Lace curtains and patterned rugs enhance the cozy feel.

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Stuff Pack / Kit: Dutch Deco & Design

Focus: Stylish and functional Dutch home décor and fashion.

Items Include:

• • Mid-century modern Dutch furniture.
  • Delft blue ceramics and wall tiles.
  • Hanging bikes for walls and bike racks.
  • Wooden clogs (sabots) as décor and wearable items.
  • Windmill garden decorations.
  • Orange-themed clothing for holidays.

Theme: Mid-century modern, functional design, and iconic Dutch minimalism.

 Modern Dutch Homes

• Style: Inspired by De Stijl, Bauhaus, and modern Amsterdam suburbs.
• Colors: Clean neutrals (gray, white, wood tones) with pops of red, yellow, blue.
• Details:
  • Modular furniture.
  • Geometric patterns and wall art (Piet Mondrian style).
  • Built-in shelving, flat-roofed homes, garden patios.

 Room-by-Room Ideas

• Living Room:
  • Low-profile sofas, tulip vases, abstract art, glass coffee tables.
• Kitchen:
  • Sleek cabinets, minimalist lighting, Dutch blue tiling backsplashes.
• Outdoor:
  • Small balcony gardens, solar panels, bike storage areas.

 Lot Ideas:

• Dutch Design Showroom – Like a museum meets a high-end design store.
• Artist’s Loft – An open-plan studio with Dutch modernist pieces.
• City Apartment – Efficient use of space, classic-meets-modern look.
  
  Theme: Mid-century modern, functional design, and iconic Dutch minimalism.Floor Plan Features:
  • Open-Concept Layouts: Seamless flow between living, dining, and kitchen areas.
  • Large Windows: Maximize natural light with floor-to-ceiling glass panes.
  • Flat Roofs: Reflecting modern architectural trends.
  Design Tips:
  • Color Palette: Clean neutrals (gray, white, wood tones) with pops of red, yellow, and blue.
  • Furniture: Modular pieces with sleek lines and geometric patterns.
  • Art: Incorporate Mondrian-inspired wall art for a bold statement.
  Lot Ideas:
  • Dutch Design Showroom: A museum-like space showcasing modern furniture and decor.
  • Artist’s Loft: An open-plan studio with Dutch modernist pieces.
  • City Apartment: Efficient use of space with a classic-meets-modern look.

   Room-by-Room Ideas

  • Living Room: Low-profile sofas, tulip vases, abstract art, and glass coffee tables.
  • Kitchen: Sleek cabinets, minimalist lighting, and Dutch blue tile backsplashes.
  • Outdoor: Small balcony gardens, solar panels, and bike storage areas.
•  Modern Dutch Homes

i honestly really think these should be in 1 pack, i remembered someone mentioned "Cheese Making" so it's a coincidence that aspiration got mentioned, i rather have these in 1 pack

by the way "Groenstad" means "Green City" in Dutch (not to mix it up with "Groenland" which means "Greenland") to translate it if the team do decides to create that world

the closest one by so far we can get is Windenburg but ChatGTP also mentioned "Evergreen Harbor" "Britechester" "San Myshuno" and "Henford-On-Bagley" but i do think "Nordhaven" also gives away The Netherlands (possibly the new world "innisgreen" too) i think it's based on the enviroment or the vibes more though

but i'd be honored if we'll get The Netherlands world with traditions, activities and the culture too (not right now, the continents like Asia, Latin/Central America and Africa deserves to have their own world first though, it's more of like in the near future or in the future)

the team should add the following personality traits with its descriptions (not from me but to this other person who came up with its own ideas based on The Netherlands).

-Stingy could be a new trait introduced, sims who hate wasting money or hate wasting anything really. They prefer cheap furniture and items, will never tip and could have a lot to say about other sims being wasteful with money. Are very happy with anything free though, but purchasing any expensive item could give them a negative moodlet. And it would stack so the more you spend, the worse it gets and the longer it lasts. When out on a date or on other outings with other sims, they can suggest going Dutch, each paying for themselves. The stingy sim is no mooch. 

-Complainer could be another new trait, also very fitting for our culture. (also we seriously need more negative traits.) The complainer is not mean or sad, but they certainly have strong feelings about, well, anything. They need to vent, online, in person, on social media. Other complainer sims could enjoy that exchange. Whenever something bad happens to them, they will not let it go, their negative moodlets last longer but that time does get reduced when they get to vent about it. Watching news could also get them really riled up, they would get angry just from watching that. On the plus side, they are very open to listening to other sims vent or complain. To them that's welcome communication. It helps them build up relationships faster. 

-Nonchalant could be a less negative new trait though that also fits us Dutch. These sims react with a shrug to whatever weird thing happens around them and just go about their business. Like they have seen it all already. They would way more often be in the neutral 'fine' emotional state, they could require like 3 points in any emotion before it kicks in for them, so would also not so easily switch moods. Some other sims might find them uncaring though, so some interactions might be more likely to go poorly when directed at these sims. Like propose to them and they'll still act casual, like it's just another tuesday. 

so what do you guys think about the pack ideas based on The Netherlands?