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- PugLove8886 years agoHero (Retired)
@OneHalf1249, I think part of the problem (if not the problem) is that there are thousands of clothing and clothing combos that would need to be worked out to get the different heights to work for every single item of clothing that covers the torso of our Sims.🤨 Most games to not have that extensive of a clothing wardrobe as the Sims have.
- Psychotps6 years agoSeasoned Ace@__B1ueFalcon__ Unfortunately that's not in the game. There are mods to do it but as others have stated, animations tend to have alignment problems. It would be nice though to have that feature.
- PugLove8886 years agoHero (Retired)
@Psychotps, and @__B1ueFalcon__ , yes I agree -- it would be fantastic to have that feature! As a short person, I would love to have either a height slider, or at least 2 or 3 different height choices per age group older than toddler. ❤️ However, realistically, since they made the teens be the same height as the adults, I seriously doubt they are ever going to change this for the Sims 4. ☹️ But , I can still hope they add this for the Sims 5, if they ever make that! 😇
- Psychotps6 years agoSeasoned Ace
Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen a game with height adjustments that didn't have alignment problems. Most games avoid having height sliders.
Mass Effect didn't. Skyrim didn't. Fallout didn't. Dragon Age didnt.
Mods added height adjustments to Skyrim but the animations had to "resize" everyone to the same size before running them, so you saw everyone's height go weird before the animations play.
It seems like it's always been an issue. Most games solve the problem by avoiding it. It IS easier.
- PugLove8886 years agoHero (Retired)
@Psychotps, I thought it might be some issue like that , but since I don't really play other games anymore, I can't confirm or deny these things! Thanks for confirming the difficulty with adjusting height. I figured that since TS4 changed the height of teens to be identical to that of adults (when both TS2 and TS3 had separate heights for teens), that there must have been some issue with heights that TS4 was trying to avoid. I think in this case it was more of a clothing issue, since in TS2 and TS3 teens had their own wardrobes while in TS4 they have the same as adults. That was like a red flag to me that it must be difficult to make the same outfits fit different sizes! TS4 gets around that by having teens be the same height as adults, which I don't like 🤒, but at least it gives teens more clothing options! :eahigh_file: So, there is a trade off!
I'm still hoping for different heights for each age, or at least adults in the future versions of the Sims! 😳 I wont' be mad if they don't do it (I'm realistic 🤨 ) but I would love for them to figure it out! 😇
- Psychotps6 years agoSeasoned Ace
@PugLove888I'm sure that's part of it. Clothing alignment and Animation alignment depends on the height of the characters. CBBE in Skyrim and Fallout solved the clothing problem with Bodyslide. It adjusts the clothing to fit the body.
Animations aren't so easy. They completely depend on the character's body parts being in a specific location. Like a kiss animation wouldn't look right if their lips are at different heights.Think about it. What if the two characters are only 1 inch different in height? The taller sim would have to have the animation adjusted so they slightly bend over. What if they are 5 or 6 inches different? The animation would need to have them bend over even further, which means a different animation.
So, a different animation for every possible difference in height? You'd need an exponential increase in the number of animations.
So, how to solve that? Dynamically adjusted animations? Is that even possible?
Seems like a LOT of work to fix when all you need to do is disable heights.
- PugLove8886 years agoHero (Retired)
@Psychotps, That make sense! 🤨 And sometimes a seemingly "easy" solution turns out to be much more difficult to implement! 🤔
- Psychotps6 years agoSeasoned Ace@PugLove888 Lol. That's usually how it works. I'm darn good at figuring out how a problem works, but not so good at actually fixing them.
I've seen this a lot in other games. For example, there's a DAI mod that allows a female main character to romance Cassandra. Problem is, the animations are designed for a male player who is always taller. So, the romance animations never line up. Most games are like that. - PugLove8886 years agoHero (Retired)
@Psychotps, interesting to know. 😎 I don't play with Mods, or even CC. ( Too much trouble for me to keep up with! 😞😳 ) So info like that is interesting to me.
- Psychotps6 years agoSeasoned Ace@PugLove888 Thing is, mods can sometimes reveal some interesting things about games and how they work.
Another example: There's a mod for Mass Effect 1 that allows a female Shepard to romance Ashley. Very interesting thing is, the voice files for the FemShep/Ashley romance scene were already in the game. But you can't romance Ashley with Femshep in the vanilla game, so why are the audio files there? They must have originally intended Femshep to romance Ashley and even packaged the audio files in the game, but decided to kill it at the last moment.
I love finding out hidden things like that.
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