Re: [FR] NPCs tenants not using shared space
I'm having this same problem. The shared spaces are all so empty. I'm scared it might be a design choice but I'm hoping they fix it.
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Make sure that you have amenities in your shared space that your tenants will want to use. For instance, training equipment with a bathroom, pool, grill and seating. Your landlord will likely also want to use these.
I have a full kitchen, 3 bathrooms, a pool and every skill object. I also have 40 tenants.
When using cheats there are always a chance that it will have adverse effects.
I was hopeful we could view all the apartments in live mode, like I was REALLY excited for this. Big disappointment that they become hidden and my tenants never venture outside. I spent days building an elaborate apartment complex and now I don't even want to play it. If anyone knows of a cheat or mod that unhides apartments and tenants in live mode, please reply.
@nualla_6109Doubtful its going to happen. Put 50 sims in a room and let them interact with each other. It takes about 3 mins for the sims to start glitching out with their autonomy command log getting so backlogged, they get slammed into t pose hard reset.
If you want to try despite warnings, you will need MC Command to up sims in zone allowed, the mod More Roommates and of course, the University xpac. Change your lot back to residential and have your main sim place an ad for roommates. After the first 8 show up (or any number less) and you have assigned them beds in that house, lock the front door of that house to those sims. Fill all your houses this way till you get to your desired number. Let the crazy ensue. The only difference i've found between roommates and tenants is:
- no lease (but still get paid rent)
- no house rules in a tenancy agreement with roommates
- you can now sublet out water properties in Sulani!
- If your roommates get pregnant, they will move out. So having a family move in, is probably not possible. (I haven't tried though)
- now no loading screen between all your properties and all sims can be seen
I've run about 20 roommates and a family of 8 with decent results but some glitching. Can only imagine 48. Even the creator of the mod more roommates has said they cut the number down to 20 from 40, because it was causing stability issues in the game.Run the game how it was coded if that's your preference, but trying to help people understand why the loading screen is needed between rental units. Without the loading screen, a house is no longer a house. Its a wall. That's just the way the game was coded. Because its a wall, sims will attempt to interact with each other continuously. The game was never designed to have 48 sims interact on that scale, hints the maximum 20 sims per zone. The game is struggling to have even 2 sims interact with each other. How well does "cook together" work? lol.
Going into the common area usage or lack thereof of the OP's post, because of the zone restrictions (20, remember a zone is the entire zone. Not just the lot you built in the zone), let's say you have 8 sims in your house and there's 8 sims outside walking around to fill the world which includes 2 dogs and a cat. That means the game limits the possibility of 4 tenants that can utilize the common area. It does not matter how many tenants you have, once the max slots are filled, there filled. The game also has to leave a few slots open in case the Grim needs to spawn or 2 firefighters come to put a fire out. So that leaves 1 slot available for a tenant to come use the common area.
If an outside event is happening like the night market, all the allowed slots are dedicated to that event which means none left for your tenants to come use common areas thus, none will spawn.
If you want to try and push the game past its limitations, there are ways and you may or may not be successful. But like any game, mods are required to do so.
I'm not using cheats.
- @zoiee2020 I just want to watch what is going on in the other tenant homes. I don't want to control them. I know in the Sims 2 Apartment Life, it was the same way. When the tenants went in their apartments, they were hidden but they weren't recluses. They would come out of their apartments all the time.
@nualla_6109You don't control roommates. They come and go as they please. Go to work or school on their own. They do however, use the common gym and come dance in the party room all the time.
Again, I think For Rent, the 20 sims cap plays a major part in the lack of common space use, or the ability to peak into their apartment without going through the loading screen.The amounts of autonomy in Sims 4 VS Sims 2 is far greater. I think it's the same amount autonomy that's causing so many issues in game stability. Because Sims 4 is coming to its end of life stage, I doubt the devs are going to rewrite any major code to fix it. More so just bandage up what they can until Sims 5 is released.
@zoiee2020 wrote:@nualla_6109Doubtful its going to happen. Put 50 sims in a room and let them interact with each other. It takes about 3 mins for the sims to start glitching out with their autonomy command log getting so backlogged, they get slammed into t pose hard reset.
50 sims on a lot works fine on my computer, I run clubs and restaurants etc with zero issues while fully packed using extended numbers of sims on my lots.
Should be allowed to do same with rentals, if the computer can handle it then why can't we be allowed to choose to see the sims running around.
@zoiee2020 wrote:
@khittehHow much better is your computer to this build?
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6600
CPU: 3.3 GHz Intel Core i3-3220
Ram: 4 GIGA lot better than that, not a nasa computer though due to not upgrading yet (it isn't time to upgrade, waiting on next gen CPUs and GPUs so the upgrade will be noticeable, that's right I'm waiting till we can install Skynet 🥳 ).
It really should be up to us to decide what we think we can deal with in settings. Some people don't even mind low fps, and there's a mod to deal with simulation lag.
- @khitteh Those specs are the minimum standard EA has put forth that's required to play this game. You can also still play on PS4. The PS4 came out in 2013.
Because those are the standards, that's what the software must be written too.
I dont know a single game on the market that has different operating features (with the exception of better FX settings) for better built computers.
Because EA allows mods in game, they are essentially allowing you decide what level you want to push your computer past minimum requirements. But you do so, at your own risk.
Until Sims 5 comes out, you will not see any better software written for better computers.
@zoiee2020 wrote:
@khittehThose specs are the minimum standard EA has put forth that's required to play this game. You can also still play on PS4. The PS4 came out in 2013.
Because those are the standards, that's what the software must be written too.No I think if you played other games you would realise that games have settings where you choose textures etc according to what your own computer can handle, with low spec computer owners needing to choose potato textures etc so their low spec computer can play the game without lagging and crashing.
No reason there shouldn't be settings for low spec computers and settings for high spec computers in Sims 4, in fact there already are such settings where numbers of sims allowed in game at one time can be set to "unlimited" if your computer can handle it. Or set really low for the potato PCs, consoles, and laptops you mentioned.
An additional setting for allowing maximum simultaneous sims to show in Residential Rentals could be added to the settings menu so that people could choose to set their own personal limits depending on their computer hardware capabilities.
Would be interesting to know on what lot with which lot traits and with how many Sims in their own household people are playing that experience this problem.
So maybe you already have 8 Sims in your household, the neighborhood you are in spawns some vendors and you also have a bunch of stray cats on your lot. Then there are probably not many Sims left from the 20 Sims limit that can be used for tenants...
I'm not saying that this would be an excuse for the feature not to work, but it could be a possible reason.
