Wants and Fears only for new packs?

100% agree. I play my game through wants-based gameplay and this update has made that style of gameplay impossible - unless I want to completely ignore the 30+ other DLC I have. 

There's no reason why they couldn't have taken the whims from before, made them into wants, and made new wants for the packs that never got any whims before.

I love this game, but it's frustrating to watch them get rid of features and alienate a large portion of the community with a feature that, given their track record with previous updates, will never get updated to have cross-compatibility with previous packs.

@A937113 and @frogcandles , yes, I also wish they would have kept the pack specific Whims from the previous packs and have converted them into Wants!  That is very disappointing! 😢

I agree! I haven't gotten much time to play with the update but I was certain with something as big as this they'd have added wants and fears from previous packs. Hopefully this is only because it's brand new and they will update it to have more!

I was so devastated when I realized there were no Wants and Fears for the older packs. There are so many packs that I consider essential and always play with, so not having W&Fs for them just makes the gameplay more bland and shallow. And while Whims weren't perfect, at least we had lots of pack-related ones. I truly hope The Sims Team reconsiders.

I only started playing Sims 4 about 2 months ago and at first I didn't even know about the whims system. I think I played for about a week before I saw a tip on a load screen and investigated the system. By that point my two main households had sims with several thousand reward points without me even trying to accumulate. This is due to the tie between moodlets and Whims which reward you for playing do your sims mood. I choose to spend the past 3 days in a new household without wants and fears showing and see how many point I got just for playing to my sims mood. The result was next to nothing. Two of my sims had about 200 point and one had 25.

So after this update moodlets feel like they lost about a 3rd of there significance. They still give you access to a ton of action and some boost skill generation but over all the gameplay loop feels fractured as there is far less reward for leaning in to moodlets.

I wish the team would bring back whims and then have wants and fears be something secondary that is more permeant and attached to your Simology but functions like asperation goals.

They also could seperate the option of whims and wants & fears. I disabled whims long ago but now its either everything or nothing of those.

Agree wholeheartedly. It also messes with gameplay. If you want to play with whims and fears on (because the mechanic is decent), your sims now have to achieve multiple base game things most days to avoid a fear of unfulfilled dreams. Leaving your sim no time to do pack specific things.  The choice to rush this and ignore previous packs has literally limited gameplay for myself.

I find myself less interested in playing after this whole thing. I am still relatively new to Sims 4 and only started playing it because Sims 2 no longer works on my computer. I am now worried that future updates are going to farther damage the base game. I figure it is a good thing I didn't buy any expansion packs yet.

I hate to admit it, but Wants and Fears are poorly done. Not only do we not have pack specific Wants and Fears (besides High School Years, of course), but the Wants themselves don't make much sense. We were told during the livestream that the first-slot Want would be a long-term desire, right? Well, since my Sim has pack specific traits only, their long-lasting desire is to listen to their favorite music. Seriously, this is what my Sim wants to do in the long run? Not cool. Next, the sexual orientation feature has just been introduced to The Sims 4 which is amazing. But who would have thought that sexual orientations wouldn't be properly intergrated with the Wants system? Homosexual and homoromantic Sims get Wants to ask Sims they are not attracted to out. It doesn't make any sense, and it should have been filtered out. Please, add Wants for the older packs. Make Wants work smartly. They may still be enjoyable if the care they need is provided.

At the moment, my ambitious overachiever keeps wanting (both in mid term and long term) to complete work tasks even though there are no work tasks. And, as for the listen to a certain music want (which is my next most frequent), I usually can’t even get it to fulfil when listening to music.